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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976 View Post
    Excellent news, it looks like their careers as cops are over!!, when this is said and done a few years from now if they don't end up in jail, they will be broke in legal fees, and civil suits, they will be lucky to get a night security job making peanuts..
    Their is this thing called a trial. i prefer to wait for all the evidence.
    And their lawyers are paid for by he Union.
    As to civil suits, you speak to quickly.
    Oh and judged to quickly as well.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, it's not. Did you hear all the testimony that the grand jury did?
    GJ indictments are almost 100 % certainty.
    One side (the DA) presents their case.
    Getting an indictment is like robbing candy from a baby.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976 View Post
    Simply sickening, LOL, thank you for the compliment..

    If Conservatives had their way, Cops could go on killing Blacks, and Hispanics, abuse their power and not answer to any authority what so ever..

    Well them days are over, everybody's watching now especially when 95%: of the populations use cell phones..

    Smile honey your on camera, LOL..
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    GJ indictments are almost 100 % certainty.
    One side (the DA) presents their case.
    Getting an indictment is like robbing candy from a baby.
    I spent 18 months on the federal grand jury in the eastern district of Oklahoma recently, I know how they work. Why didn't the grand jury indict the cop that killed Michael Brown in Ferguson MO?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    This does not mean that the cops are going to prison, just that they will now have to stand trial. I seriously doubt that they will go to prison or see any serious time.
    Correct. If people reviewed sentencing for Officers they would be outraged on some of them.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I spent 18 months on the federal grand jury in the eastern district of Oklahoma recently, I know how they work. Why didn't the grand jury indict the cop that killed Michael Brown in Ferguson MO?
    I cannot recall all but conflicting testimony, changing testimony to start with.
    Fill me in
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    I cannot recall all but conflicting testimony, changing testimony to start with.
    Fill me in
    The Grand jury has a low bar threshold, probable cause, a trial jury has a higher bar threshold, beyond reasonable doubt. The ferguson grand jury, even with the low threshold, was not convinced of probable cause. The Baltimore one was.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The Grand jury has a low bar threshold, probable cause, a trial jury has a higher bar threshold, beyond reasonable doubt. The ferguson grand jury, even with the low threshold, was not convinced of probable cause. The Baltimore one was.
    Evidence is still presented by one side.
    The bar as mentioned is low, then it is over to a trial, where the bar is much higher

    Why 18 months?
    As to other cases with Officer involved shootings, check and see what the sentences were and what and how difficult it is to gain a GJ indictment. One fellow received 30 days. Fired, but hired by a nearby Dept.
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976​ View Post
    Simply sickening,
    I know. You should be embarrassed.


    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976​ View Post
    If Conservatives had their way, Cops could go on killing Blacks, and Hispanics, abuse their power and not answer to any authority what so ever..
    Delusional thinking.


    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976​ View Post
    Well them days are over,
    Them days have not been here for many decades and in those days it was the Democrats that supported such.
    “The law is reason, free from passion.”
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    Re: 6 Officers Indicted In Freddie Gray’s Death

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Evidence is still presented by one side.
    The bar as mentioned is low, then it is over to a trial, where the bar is much higher

    Why 18 months?
    As to other cases with Officer involved shootings, check and see what the sentences were and what and how difficult it is to gain a GJ indictment. One fellow received 30 days. Fired, but hired by a nearby Dept.
    No sorry, the federal grand jury that I was on was eighteen months, during which time we heard something like 100 cases. It's about a rural district, sparsely populated, stuff not relevant to our point here. I'm not saying that the six guys in this case are guilty as charged, understand. I'm saying that the factual evidence that the grand jury heard in the Baltimore case gave the jurors (which in my case consisted of 23 with a requirement of 16 for an indictment) reason to believe that there is probable cause that the defendants are guilty as charged. Assuming it was the same as my experience, and that is just an assumption, the defendants, if the grand jury even interviewed them, that's not a given, would be allowed to have representation outside the jury's secure room, and would have a right to excuse themselves to confer with their representation for counseling before answering any question the jurors asked them that they felt uncomfortable about. I don't want to drag it out and get too detailed, but suffice it to say, this will go before a trial jury and these men will have an opportunity to have the DA's "evidence" challenged.

    While it looks to some of us like these men are guilty, and it looks to others like they are not, what we all should want is for justice to be served, let's hope that's what happens.
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