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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Americans are sick of ****ing with the Middle East, take up the cause if you've the stones.
    We might be tired of the ME, but we aren't leaving. And we sure aren't leaving in defeat because of a weak POTUS like Obama.

    Like it or not the war on terror isn't going away-in fact it will almost certainly outlast you.

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Americans are sick of ****ing with the Middle East, take up the cause if you've the stones.
    I'm sure everyone here appreciates the stones it takes to make juvenile personal attacks like that on the internet.

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We might be tired of the ME, but we aren't leaving. And we sure aren't leaving in defeat because of a weak POTUS like Obama.

    Like it or not the war on terror isn't going away-in fact it will almost certainly outlast you.
    The "war on terror" is a junket for American defense contractors and big oil who have duped you into rah rah flag waving tuff man talking support of policies that exacerbate global terrorism to keep that wheel grinding. And it needs its stooges in order to perpetuate itself. Good job, you get a gold star.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I'm sure everyone here appreciates the stones it takes to make juvenile personal attacks like that on the internet.
    It's not an attack. It's an, I'm finished with your failed policies that create more problems then they solve. If you disagree, then you may join him.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I'd disagree.

    If Obama hadn't pulled the troops and achieve the needed SoF agreements, troop strength would have been such as to stop the ISIS growth before it came to the prominence that it has.

    Remember, Obama inherited a fairly stable and fairly secure Iraq and Afghanistan, and then let those accomplishments slip away.
    But wait! Our President was handcuffed by Bush's status-of-forces agreement! What could Mr. Obama have done, but throw up his hands? Don't you know that the only reason the U.S. was able to keep forces in South Korea after 1953 was that President Eisenhower asked the government there very nicely for permission, and it granted it? If they had been mean and raised their voices, I am sure Eisenhower would just have bowed his head, started to cry, and apologized for ever asking. I mean, what more can the president of a weak little country like the U.S. do?

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's not an attack. It's an, I'm finished with your failed policies that create more problems then they solve. If you disagree, then you may join him.
    What you are finished with does not interest me, and I doubt it interests anyone else here either.

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    What you are finished with does not interest me, and I doubt it interests anyone else here either.
    I could have sworn you engaged me not the other way around, lol.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Dude, you're not required to accept responsibility for Bush's mistakes. It's ok, take a breathe, relax, it's on him. Hell, it doesn't even matter if your patronizing eyes don't see it.
    I have no idea what you are on about. The facts are pretty clear as I've laid them out. Obama and his administration blew it, and allowed ISIS to grow and expand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Exactly. Seems the more the US fights AQ, the stronger they become.
    No, the more the US withdraws (before the situation warranted withdrawing) creating a power vacuum the more ISIS expands and grows.
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.
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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    But wait! Our President was handcuffed by Bush's status-of-forces agreement! What could Mr. Obama have done, but throw up his hands? Don't you know that the only reason the U.S. was able to keep forces in South Korea after 1953 was that President Eisenhower asked the government there very nicely for permission, and it granted it? If they had been mean and raised their voices, I am sure Eisenhower would just have bowed his head, started to cry, and apologized for ever asking. I mean, what more can the president of a weak little country like the U.S. do?
    You are sadly misinformed. Obama couldn't be bothered to achieve a SoF agreement with Maliki (Iraq).
    To my frustration, the White House coordinated the negotiations but never really led them. Officials there seemed content to endorse an agreement if State and Defense could reach one, but without the President’s active advocacy, al-Maliki was allowed to slip away. The deal never materialized. To this day, I believe that a small U.S. troop presence in Iraq could have effectively advised the Iraqi military on how to deal with al-Qaeda’s resurgence and the sectarian violence that has engulfed the country.
    Leon Panetta: How the White House Misplayed Iraqi Troop Talks

    Also same quote in Former defense secretary blames Obama - CNNPolitics.com
    Panetta writes that “our side viewed the White House as so eager to rid itself of Iraq that it was willing to withdraw rather than lock in arrangements that would preserve our influence and interests.”
    Panetta memoir blames Obama for collapse in Iraq « Hot Air

    Yet another recurring 'reality be dammed, full steam ahead with the ideology', that the world and this nation is going to pay dearly for.

    Thanks Obama. Thanks for nothing.
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.
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    Trump to NYT: “Try reporting accurately & fairly!”

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I have no idea what you are on about. The facts are pretty clear as I've laid them out. Obama and his administration blew it, and allowed ISIS to grow and expand.



    No, the more the US withdraws (before the situation warranted withdrawing) creating a power vacuum the more ISIS expands and grows.
    Your wrong. The only reason we're talking about an Islamic State is because Bush and Obama have pursued failed policies in the ME. The 2006 NIE blames Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq for the rise in global terrorism and making America less safe. Both presidents have contributed to this.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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