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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

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    To make things worse, I heard on the news today that Baghdad is nearly encircled.
    Heya USC. Its been that way for awhile. The Iraqis have like 60k troops in Baghdad with our Advisors. So ISIS isn't in a hurry to attack there in force. They were using suicide bombers.

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    This is exactly what Barack Obama and John McCain wanted. They wanted moderate rebels to take over the Syrian government and to oust Assad. But the warmongerers insisted that we destabalize the region and oust the government; a government I might add that was fighting to save the Christians from slaughter. I recall the neocons pissing and moaning about how Christians are under attack so it is bizarre that they demand that the government that was protecting said Christians be ousted.

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    This is exactly what Barack Obama and John McCain wanted. They wanted moderate rebels to take over the Syrian government and to oust Assad. But the warmongerers insisted that we destabalize the region and oust the government; a government I might add that was fighting to save the Christians from slaughter. I recall the neocons pissing and moaning about how Christians are under attack so it is bizarre that they demand that the government that was protecting said Christians be ousted.
    Oh you mean after the MB, the Saud and Qatar all made the initial moves to remove Assad? Did you recall that too?

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Worked for you when you were on your knees for Bush sucking up support from a coalition of the willing for Iraq, lol.
    A near global coalition including the likes of Kerry and Hillary; the US has always led in world affairs until Obama became POTUS.

    Now he "leads from behind" providing ISIS, a JV team, strongholds in two separate countries.

    Additionally, libs just can't seem to grasp the irony of allowing a nation advanced nuclear capabilities that wishes "death to America."

    Now that's really doltish, but what would one expect from the left?
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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    This is exactly what Barack Obama and John McCain wanted. They wanted moderate rebels to take over the Syrian government and to oust Assad. But the warmongerers insisted that we destabalize the region and oust the government; a government I might add that was fighting to save the Christians from slaughter. I recall the neocons pissing and moaning about how Christians are under attack so it is bizarre that they demand that the government that was protecting said Christians be ousted.
    You mean the "warmonger" in charge of the state department at the time?
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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    This is exactly what Barack Obama and John McCain wanted. They wanted moderate rebels to take over the Syrian government and to oust Assad. But the warmongerers insisted that we destabalize the region and oust the government; a government I might add that was fighting to save the Christians from slaughter. I recall the neocons pissing and moaning about how Christians are under attack so it is bizarre that they demand that the government that was protecting said Christians be ousted.
    As a matter of fact, regime change in Syria is a long time USFP ambition.

    In a New York Times op-ed on Aug. 29, neocon Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham avoided the “r-c” phrase couching their words about Syria’s civil war in the vague language of resolving the conflict, but clearly meaning that Assad must go.

    The hawkish pair wrote that thwarting ISIS “requires an end to the [civil] conflict in Syria, and a political transition there, because the regime of President Bashar al-Assad will never be a reliable partner against ISIS; in fact, it has abetted the rise of ISIS, just as it facilitated the terrorism of ISIS’ predecessor, Al Qaeda in Iraq.”

    Though the McCain-Graham depiction of Assad’s relationship to ISIS and al-Qaeda is a distortion at best – in fact, Assad’s army has been the most effective force in pushing back against the Sunni terrorist groups that have come to dominate the Western-backed rebel movement – the op-ed’s underlying point is obvious: an initial step in the U.S. military operation against ISIS must be “regime change” in Damascus.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2014/09/1...e-change-plan/

    From a 2005' article

    Bush administration hawks pushing for regime change in Syria have been countermanded by diplomatic concerns that the secular Assad regime could be replaced by an even more threatening, fundamentalist leadership. Much of last winter's hope for Lebanon to expel Syrian intelligence operatives has evaporated.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10651208/n...es-terrorists/
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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    A near global coalition including the likes of Kerry and Hillary; the US has always led in world affairs until Obama became POTUS.

    Now he "leads from behind" providing ISIS, a JV team, strongholds in two separate countries.

    Additionally, libs just can't seem to grasp the irony of allowing a nation advanced nuclear capabilities that wishes "death to America."

    Now that's really doltish, but what would one expect from the left?
    I don't favor the vast majority of USFP projected by either party, but for the most part see very little difference. I don't have the partisan ambitions that you do. Occasionally, I agree with it though. Like I do with regards to Cuba, North Korea, and Iran. Iran that is at present anyway. I'm still having difficulty figuring out why it is that despite the fact that there will be six nations signatory to whatever Iran nuclear deal is agreed upon, the fringe right (and actually even some more moderates on the right) continue to frame this as though it's a unilateral Obama deal!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't favor the vast majority of USFP projected by either party, but for the most part see very little difference. I don't have the partisan ambitions that you do. Occasionally, I agree with it though. Like I do with regards to Cuba, North Korea, and Iran. Iran that is at present anyway. I'm still having difficulty figuring out why it is that despite the fact that there will be six nations signatory to whatever Iran nuclear deal is agreed upon, the fringe right (and actually even some more moderates on the right) continue to frame this as though it's a unilateral Obama deal!!
    I have ambitions for the US to remain the most powerful country in the world to protect our interests around the globe. If that's partisan to you then so be it, I don't really care how others view my thoughts and opinions on the role of the US in the world.

    I also don't care about the other countries either, because if the US was actually leading in the world, the other countries wouldn't be inclined to make a deal with Iran either.

    See what happens in the world with the likes of China, ISIS, Syria, and Russia when US foreign policy is weak?
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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I have ambitions for the US to remain the most powerful country in the world to protect our interests around the globe. If that's partisan to you then so be it, I don't really care how others view my thoughts and opinions on the role of the US in the world.

    I also don't care about the other countries either, because if the US was actually leading in the world, the other countries wouldn't be inclined to make a deal with Iran either.

    See what happens in the world with the likes of China, the ME, and Russia when US foreign policy is weak?
    Hate to break it to you kid, but the days of US global leadership are trailing off. You can't abuse power and retain it.

    The Real Reason the U.S. is Losing Its Dominance ? and No, It's Not the Shutdown - Mic

    10 Ways America Is Losing Its Superpower Status to China
    10 Ways America Is Losing Its Superpower Status to China - DailyFinance

    The Decline of the West: Why America Must Prepare for the End of Dominance
    The U.S. will remain powerful, yes, but the world is changing.

    The Decline of the West: Why America Must Prepare for the End of Dominance - The Atlantic
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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hate to break it to you kid, but the days of US global leadership are trailing off. You can't abuse power and retain it.
    Yes it has, for almost eight years. You can't attain global leadership by leading from behind.
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