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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    No matter. They'd probably tell us no anyway!
    lol..they already deny it
    Hezbollah are just a bunch of freedom fighters don't cha' know

    Cute. I just tried to find a State Dept. link and I forgot that Obama took them off the list of state funded terrorism..
    Obama is too much, like they aren't going to go after ISIL if we list them as such??

    http://europe.newsweek.com/iran-and-...r-talks-314073

    ^ U.S. Omits Iran and Hezbollah From Terror Threat List

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The so called "Arab Spring", food riots, protests etc, were exploited by Western States as well as a few Arab States that have had regime change ambitions in Syria for a very long time.
    no doubt, Monte.... I just don't think western roles would have changed a lot of outcomes,although you never know..
    Certainly Hillary's "Friends of Syria" junk policy didn't help, and did make it more difficult for Assad..

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well then the Sunni and Shia should have quit asking for business to be conducted with them.....also the Sunni and Shia, should have quit asking for help and making alliances. Should have quit asking for help with all they couldn't handle with each other. Should also quit asking for American Goods and products.

    Then they should never have created any incidents with us. Since they can't handle each other. Then hoping our involvement we would be constrained by our own laws.

    Note how all that begins with who the real problem is.....and who started it all. With their own words and actions. Which as a matter of fact they have done the same exact thing with any others they have communicated with. All by their own actions and words. That which is the sum of them.

    That you can't place on any others.....but them.
    I'm exhausted with arguing with you about this , but perhaps one more time. The Sunnis and Shia have been waring with each other since before George Washington gave his inaugural address. Since before the Mayflower landed at Plymouth Rock. Since before Christopher Columbus discovered America. Why snot nosed Americans think they can fix the perennial struggles of the Middle East is fantastic. Certainly for all of Americas efforts, regardless of the petty party finger pointing of blame that goes on endlessly, we have failed to produce any peace or happiness in the region whatsoever and have had a colossal destructive effect on it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    no doubt, Monte.... I just don't think western roles would have changed a lot of outcomes,although you never know..
    Certainly Hillary's "Friends of Syria" junk policy didn't help, and did make it more difficult for Assad..
    Agreed. If I say it another way, if perpetuation of the Assad government was an American foreign policy interest, Assad would have suppressed the uprising in its youth.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm exhausted with arguing with you about this , but perhaps one more time. The Sunnis and Shia have been waring with each other since before George Washington gave his inaugural address. Since before the Mayflower landed at Plymouth Rock. Since before Christopher Columbus discovered America. Why snot nosed Americans think they can fix the perennial struggles of the Middle East is fantastic. Certainly for all of Americas efforts, regardless of the petty party finger pointing of blame that goes on endlessly, we have failed to produce any peace or happiness in the region whatsoever and have had a colossal destructive effect on it.

    Yes you are exhausted arguing that the US is to blame for everything. Such weak sauce never gives one such as yourself any comfortability. As you aptly demonstrate.....the Arabs have been major **** ups since the beginning of time. Their Mouths.....their Actions. Their behaviors. You can't hide those facts.....they are responsible for their own ****. As well as who THEY INVOLVE!

    Maybe now you can figure that part about.....we have never been there for their comfort nor their happiness. We can't make them accept peace. Except for one way. Which they wouldn't like that since that would leave them no tomorrow.

    We can't stop them from being the major **** ups on the planet. We can't stop them from being inept, incompetent, and make them have some heart and courage.

    But you can attempt to explain away all their weaknesses.....but you can't avoid whats theirs and where they are the cause and the blame.

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    How long to the Muslims there get sick of this kind of attack and actually kill off the scumbags?
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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yes you are exhausted arguing that the US is to blame for everything. Such weak sauce never gives one such as yourself any comfortability. As you aptly demonstrate.....the Arabs have been major **** ups since the beginning of time. Their Mouths.....their Actions. Their behaviors. You can't hide those facts.....they are responsible for their own ****. As well as who THEY INVOLVE!

    Maybe now you can figure that part about.....we have never been there for their comfort nor their happiness. We can't make them accept peace. Except for one way. Which they wouldn't like that since that would leave them no tomorrow.

    We can't stop them from being the major **** ups on the planet. We can't stop them from being inept, incompetent, and make them have some heart and courage.

    But you can attempt to explain away all their weaknesses.....but you can't avoid whats theirs and where they are the cause and the blame.
    Except that's not what I said. And you're constantly blaming America for what's wrong in the ME as well, with the exception that you let Bush off the hook for his failure.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Except that's not what I said. And you're constantly blaming America for what's wrong in the ME as well, with the exception that you let Bush off the hook for his failure.
    Not at all.....I don't blame the US for everything and existing. That's you remember.....Even going back to our beginning you aptly point out how its just the Americans fault.

    Oh and many have not given Bush Jr a pass. You just cant figure that **** out. While bringing that weakass left leaning ideology....that is about nothing. But being a sell out to the Country and to the countrymen.

    Its why you never blame any others except the US.

    More than likely you're an Arab with an axe to grind which is why you Never Admit to them being the **** ups on the planet that they are, and will always be.

    Until someone finally says enough is enough, and puts an end to ALL the BS that make them what they are.

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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    The situation for the Syrian civilians has been incredibly dire for 4 years.

    An estimated 9 million Syrians have fled their homes since the outbreak of civil war in March 2011, taking refuge in neighbouring countries or within Syria itself. UNHCR estimate over 4 million have fled to Syria's immediate neighbours Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq. 7.6 million are internally displaced within Syria.

    The sheer magnitude of the crisis is enormous and Syrians are now the largest refugee population in the world. Just a terrible situation.
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    Re: ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not at all.....I don't blame the US for everything and existing. That's you remember.....Even going back to our beginning you aptly point out how its just the Americans fault.

    Oh and many have not given Bush Jr a pass. You just cant figure that **** out. While bringing that weakass left leaning ideology....that is about nothing. But being a sell out to the Country and to the countrymen.

    Its why you never blame any others except the US.

    More than likely you're an Arab with an axe to grind which is why you Never Admit to them being the **** ups on the planet that they are, and will always be.

    Until someone finally says enough is enough, and puts an end to ALL the BS that make them what they are.
    You'll never put an end to Muslim extremism by creating conditions that they are the beneficiaries of. And yes, I know that more and more, one time supporters of Bush's Iraq policy are falling off that wagon, though you're not one.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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