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McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a rise

Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Are we better off today..than we were, when the middle class was earning inflated wages?
The reason we are where we are today is BECAUSE of inflated unIon wages. Why is it libs always want to double down on unsustainable practices?
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

The reason we are where we are today is BECAUSE of inflated unIon wages. Why is it libs always want to double down on unsustainable practices?

This is partly true...so since these company's and CEO's are American...do they have any responsibility to the overall financial health of the folks who work for them...or is it ok to you..that the CEO's and stockholders are living much larger today...enjoying the fruits of this wonderful country..while screwing over the ones who put them where they are? A mistake was made with the Unions and their extortion of wages..but even with that..are we better off today with lower wages and high profits. I could see your point..if these companies were struggling, but they are not and much better off than they were before. So, to you, the best solution was to move the companies into other countries...and screw Americans? This is as unpatriotic as it comes.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

This is partly true...so since these company's and CEO's are American...do they have any responsibility to the overall financial health of the folks who work for them...or is it ok to you..that the CEO's and stockholders are living much larger today...enjoying the fruits of this wonderful country..while screwing over the ones who put them where they are? A mistake was made with the Unions and their extortion of wages..but even with that..are we better off today with lower wages and high profits. I could see your point..if these companies were struggling, but they are not and much better off than they were before. So, to you, the best solution was to move the companies into other countries...and screw Americans? This is as unpatriotic as it comes.

I have no idea where to begin. The level of misinformation and lib talking point cliches in your posts is staggering.

For starters, you do realize anyone with a retirement plan is a "stockholder", right?
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Regulation is just barf that is spewed by Fox News...we have regulation for a reason..safety being one of them. Regulation must not be hurting Ford Motor Company too bad...the CEO earned 18 million in 2014. Laughing all the way to bank as consumers spent 35K on a pickup truck...LOL

Ford Reveals 2014 Executive-Compensation Packages - WSJ

higher EPA regulations. and other such standards do in fact hurt American businesses as they have to comply with such demands. that is why that pickup truck costs 35k dollars.
Ford has to use more expensive material and have to find electronics to monitor those things.

they have to comply with stricter safety guidelines which increases costs of that truck etc ...
the CEO is a contract that says Ford will pay him that much.

There is safety but then there is over regulation that increases cost for no reason.

IE backup cams on all SUV's and trucks. those system sell for 1500 bucks that is just part of that 35000 price.

also just a point of note CEO pay has nothing to do with what that truck costs.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

It depends on what you call a small town, under 10K is a small town and they do not offer the wages required to move from them, easily without help.

I did.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

That of course is the impetus behind the raise the minimum wage movement. But what about the poor non union schlubs? You know, people who actually have a skill or really do work hard.

we are told tough luck. that is my problem I make good money now, but if the burger flipped makes 15 an hour no one is going to give me a 60% increase in pay and my job is way more difficult requires travel and a whole bunch of other things.

I will get the same pay increase as I always get.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

This is partly true...so since these company's and CEO's are American...do they have any responsibility to the overall financial health of the folks who work for them...or is it ok to you..that the CEO's and stockholders are living much larger today...enjoying the fruits of this wonderful country..while screwing over the ones who put them where they are? A mistake was made with the Unions and their extortion of wages..but even with that..are we better off today with lower wages and high profits. I could see your point..if these companies were struggling, but they are not and much better off than they were before. So, to you, the best solution was to move the companies into other countries...and screw Americans? This is as unpatriotic as it comes.

First, understand that a CEO's primary legal duty is to the financial health and profit of the company, NOT the workers, except where part A fits into tab B.

Second, you're complaining about the (predicted by conservatives) effects of globalization. Globalization has been touted and moved towards by every president and virtually every congress since JFK (often in the direct opposition to the will of the people). The liberals used to see it as a panacea for a wonderful utopian future as a global community. They used to rally around the "leveling of the playing field". Not so much any more now that the effects are felt.

When you level the playing field, the low spots are lifted by knocking down the high spots. Good news if you live in a low spot, but if you live in a high spot, not so much. This is what you are seeing having lived in a high spot that is being leveled.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

I don't know about this 15 bucks/hr to flip burgers. Let's be honest, there are not many jobs within McDonalds that would constitute an adult job. Working at McDonalds at age 35 doesn't mean you should be making a living wage, it means you f'd up somewhere along the line. There are certainly career paths within the franchise including management and other positions, but that's not the majority of the jobs. Most of those jobs are for teenagers who need to make a little bit of money for their own stuff and perhaps learn a bit about working.

Instead of raising the wages, perhaps they should just spend some scratch and invest in some engineering in order to automate more of the process. Though it would such for high school kids who need a job.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

we are told tough luck. that is my problem I make good money now, but if the burger flipped makes 15 an hour no one is going to give me a 60% increase in pay and my job is way more difficult requires travel and a whole bunch of other things.

I will get the same pay increase as I always get.
How can this be? We're always told that modern liberalism is all about fairness.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Once we start down the path to a livable wage, beginning at the bottom, it's just a short skip and a jump to determining that really, no one should make more than they need to live, so....
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

No, I've moved to different locales throughout my lifetime and not once has someone else paid for my move. And large towns don't pay more than minimum wage for minimum wage jobs either.
FUD, larger towns generally pay more for the same position.

I can tell you from personal experience that just aint true.
I can tell you from personal experience you'd be wrong. I'm glad you got the help to move, but making things up is just silly. There is a reason a lot of the fly over states are called "economic black holes" its hard to escape them without assistance. Be it college acceptance or a job offer from another state. That is why mobility is a luxury.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Fight the good fight! Nobody working full time in the United States should be living in poverty.

Will you assign them greater responsibilities along with higher pay? Will they have to take risks, work longer hours like most salaried people do, give speeches, fire people, etc...?
 
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I have no idea where to begin. The level of misinformation and lib talking point cliches in your posts is staggering.

For starters, you do realize anyone with a retirement plan is a "stockholder", right?

Not really a liberal mindset..and you are deflecting the question. Retirements are a whole different subject and yes...they too hurt companies who are unionized. You seem to be glorifiying these companies who moved their operation to lower paying countries so the CEO's could get richer..and I just can't understand that mindset. It is a typical conservative mindset tho. You guys worship these folks as if they are gods and they would not give you a drink of water if you were dying of thirst. I just think the US is better than what we are doing with our middle class...the class that actually built this country to greatness and now the middle class is dying a slow death. You also complain of regulation...What regulation? We just saw a huge oil spill due to a Texas oil company not bringing their pipe line up to code. I would love not to pay for the services of the EPA...all they are is a government babysitter that the taxpayers pay for to ensure that these companies are doing the right thing. Why do they need to be told basic safety measures or even forced..after all they must be smart..they are earning into the millions. The nation was forced into regulation by greed. Don't you think we are better than China...a country who shuts down their expressways due to smog? or the fact you have to wear a mask to move about the city?
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Once we start down the path to a livable wage, beginning at the bottom, it's just a short skip and a jump to determining that really, no one should make more than they need to live, so....

Fairly good odds it's not going to be near the top of the range, either. Of course there will be the requisite exemptions made - they are necessary, you know, in order that the rest of the populous again be reminded how little they matter to those who run things.

It's actually amazing in a way that strangers can just somehow magically know what's best for everyone. It's a tough job, but they feel qualified to do it, and we should appreciate their efforts on our behalf, and cease being the ungrateful wretches that ask questions - which are such an annoyance! :thumbdown:
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

I don't know about this 15 bucks/hr to flip burgers. Let's be honest, there are not many jobs within McDonalds that would constitute an adult job. Working at McDonalds at age 35 doesn't mean you should be making a living wage, it means you f'd up somewhere along the line. There are certainly career paths within the franchise including management and other positions, but that's not the majority of the jobs. Most of those jobs are for teenagers who need to make a little bit of money for their own stuff and perhaps learn a bit about working.

Instead of raising the wages, perhaps they should just spend some scratch and invest in some engineering in order to automate more of the process. Though it would such for high school kids who need a job.

The folks who work at places like McD's, might have had a good job at one time...but lost it during the recession and off shoring. We also have seniors working at these places too...because they lost a big portion of their retirement during the Bush Administration and now forced to work at Walmart or fast food. I admire the folks who swallow their pride and take a job like this after earning a good middle class wage...at least they are paying their way. Nothing wrong with a honest days work. The part that bothers me...they can't live on less than 8 dollars per hour and the taxpayers supplement their wages while the upper crust of the company laughs about it. This should bother any tax payer. Then when these companies start to get nervous about minimum wage hikes..they threaten their customers with higher prices...making us supplement these wages again. I earn a very good wage...I also pay 36% in taxes...but I could care less if someone less fortunate earns more..it is no skin off my nose at all. Anyone with a degree in business, can see when more money is circulated, the better the economy. Higher wages equal more spending power and everyone benefits...right down to the Mom and Pop shop who sells ice cream.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

A $15 an hour worker costs a lot more than $15 an hour. That's one of the problems with paying people more. It's $15 + SS + workman's comp + Medicare, and, if they're full time, + medical insurance. Often, you have to add in sick leave along with other sorts of leaves.

Now, if the worker is worth $20 or $25 an hour, that' OK. If they're only worth $10, then the employer has a problem, which is generally solved by hiring fewer workers in one way or another, or by hiring illegal labor.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

A $15 an hour worker costs a lot more than $15 an hour. That's one of the problems with paying people more. It's $15 + SS + workman's comp + Medicare, and, if they're full time, + medical insurance. Often, you have to add in sick leave along with other sorts of leaves.

Now, if the worker is worth $20 or $25 an hour, that' OK. If they're only worth $10, then the employer has a problem, which is generally solved by hiring fewer workers in one way or another, or by hiring illegal labor.


McDonald's orders 7,000 touchscreen kiosks to replace cashiers

When you are easily replaced by a machine, your time isn't worth much and you will be replaced. You are right about labor burden.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

The folks who work at places like McD's, might have had a good job at one time...but lost it during the recession and off shoring. We also have seniors working at these places too...because they lost a big portion of their retirement during the Bush Administration and now forced to work at Walmart or fast food. I admire the folks who swallow their pride and take a job like this after earning a good middle class wage...at least they are paying their way. Nothing wrong with a honest days work. The part that bothers me...they can't live on less than 8 dollars per hour and the taxpayers supplement their wages while the upper crust of the company laughs about it. This should bother any tax payer. Then when these companies start to get nervous about minimum wage hikes..they threaten their customers with higher prices...making us supplement these wages again. I earn a very good wage...I also pay 36% in taxes...but I could care less if someone less fortunate earns more..it is no skin off my nose at all. Anyone with a degree in business, can see when more money is circulated, the better the economy. Higher wages equal more spending power and everyone benefits...right down to the Mom and Pop shop who sells ice cream.

Why do you assume that McD's laughs at their employees making minimum wage? Can you make the equivalent of a McChicken sandwich and sell it for one dollar while providing clean and updated decor, employee uniforms and some benefits, taking on lawsuits up the ying yang from envious people, etc....? And if you believe in an honest days work, would you mind Mcdonald's offsetting the several extra dollars per hr. in minimum wage they could be paying by having welfare recipients work for free in exchange for their entitlements?
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Fairly good odds it's not going to be near the top of the range, either. Of course there will be the requisite exemptions made - they are necessary, you know, in order that the rest of the populous again be reminded how little they matter to those who run things.

It's actually amazing in a way that strangers can just somehow magically know what's best for everyone. It's a tough job, but they feel qualified to do it, and we should appreciate their efforts on our behalf, and cease being the ungrateful wretches that ask questions - which are such an annoyance! :thumbdown:

Absolutely. If $15 is enough for people to live on working at McDonalds, I don't see any reason why anybody should make any more than that. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. So, what's good for the burger flipper is good for the research scientist or doctor. Lawyers, naturally, would be exempt. This is just common sense for common people. Uncommon sense is reserved for uncommon people.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

This is partly true...so since these company's and CEO's are American...do they have any responsibility to the overall financial health of the folks who work for them...or is it ok to you..that the CEO's and stockholders are living much larger today...enjoying the fruits of this wonderful country..while screwing over the ones who put them where they are? A mistake was made with the Unions and their extortion of wages..but even with that..are we better off today with lower wages and high profits. I could see your point..if these companies were struggling, but they are not and much better off than they were before. So, to you, the best solution was to move the companies into other countries...and screw Americans? This is as unpatriotic as it comes.

No. That isn't in a CEOs job description. CEOs are tasked with returning shareholder equity, they aren't hired to be responsible for the "overall financial health" of their staff.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Why do you assume that McD's laughs at their employees making minimum wage? Can you make the equivalent of a McChicken sandwich and sell it for one dollar while providing clean and updated decor, employee uniforms and some benefits, taking on lawsuits up the ying yang from envious people, etc....? And if you believe in an honest days work, would you mind Mcdonald's offsetting the several extra dollars per hr. in minimum wage they could be paying by having welfare recipients work for free in exchange for their entitlements?

They are laughing at the taxpayers for supplementing the wages of their staff. Yes...I think work exchange programs are a good idea, especially in areas of shortages. No one should get a hand out for doing nothing..but those who are truly trying, should receive a hand up such as an increase in minimum wage. Working for entitlement benefits builds a work ethic and self esteem and all companies should consider it. Even with all of the expenses you listed, McD's is still killing it in profits.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

No. That isn't in a CEOs job description. CEOs are tasked with returning shareholder equity, they aren't hired to be responsible for the "overall financial health" of their staff.

I am not sure where you work...but the CEO approves the operating budget and salaries are part of that. They determine what the annual increases will be.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

I am not sure where you work...but the CEO approves the operating budget and salaries are part of that. They determine what the annual increases will be.

That has nothing to do with being responsible for my "overall financial health". The CEO approves a budget that he/she believes will return shareholder equity. A CEO isn't hired to give out salaries.
 
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Why exactly are they worth $15 an hour? Please be specific. Does this mean laborers and skilled tradesman making $15 will get a raise as well?

I meant they are worth $15.00 total, not an hour.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

They are laughing at the taxpayers for supplementing the wages of their staff. Yes...I think work exchange programs are a good idea, especially in areas of shortages. No one should get a hand out for doing nothing..but those who are truly trying, should receive a hand up such as an increase in minimum wage. Working for entitlement benefits builds a work ethic and self esteem and all companies should consider it. Even with all of the expenses you listed, McD's is still killing it in profits.

Can you post a link to McDonalds senior managers laughing at taxpayers, please?
 
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