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McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a rise

Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Well then, if it's so easy, why don't you do it?

She doesn't have the resources to do it.
you have to put down 40% of the cost of the restaurant.

however I would rather open a chick fil a. it only takes 10000 to open a chick fil a, but their interview process is a beast.
I met someone that knew the owners of chick fil a. I think 90% of the people that apply for a franchise are shot down.

even if she did open one.

she would soon realize that it is not possible to pay people 15 dollars an hour and stay open.
so lets look at this logically.

at 15 dollars an hour working 8 hours a day with 8 people on a shift. that is 960 dollars for 1 day payroll (that is nothing else just payroll.)
even at 10 dollars a burger (who the heck would pay that for a mcdonalds burger?) that is still 96 burgers a day you have to sell.
since we all know that no one in their right mind would pay 10 bucks for a mcdonalds burger that means the price has to go down.

even at 5 dollars that is still 192 burgers.

that is just to meet payroll for the day that doesn't include water, electric or any other overhead costs. not to mention that you have to pay 4%
of your receipts to corporate for franchising fee's.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

I make over $18 an hour sorting mail into a bucket. Say these burger people were to get $15 an hour, that'd make My wage not look so good. **** them.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Fight the good fight! Nobody working full time in the United States should be living in poverty.

McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a rise | Business | The Guardian

Thousands of McDonald’s employees and union activists descended on the company’s headquarters near Chicago on Thursday to hold the biggest ever protest against “poverty wages” paid to most of its 400,000 employees, as the company’s board gathered for its annual shareholder meeting. About 5,000 McDonald’s employees from across the US chanted: “We work, we sweat, put $15 in our cheque” as they marched towards the burger giant’s headquarters holding banners reading “McDonald’s: $15 and Union Rights, Not Food Stamps.” As the meeting began protesters delivered a petition signed by 1.4m people calling on the company to support a $15 minimum wage and to respect workers’ rights to unionize.

“We’re here to tell McDonald’s and its shareholders to invest in the company and its workers instead of wealthy hedge fund managers and executives,” said Kwanza Brooks, a McDonald’s worker and mother of three from Charlotte, North Carolina, who is paid $7.25 an hour. “We’re tired of relying on food stamps to feed our own families. We need $15 and the right to form a union and we need it now.” Terrence Wise, 35, travelled 12 hours by bus from Kansas City with his three young daughters. “Was it worth it to stand here? Yes definitely. I want my voice to be heard. I’ve worked at McDonald’s and Burger King for 11 years earning $8 an hour. I have three little girls to care for. I work two jobs, my partner works too, yet we still struggle to survive. We rely on food stamps. I don’t want to live on food stamps, I want to get paid what I deserve and work hard for. McDonald’s can clearly afford to pay us a living wage. They need to, now.”
This has nothing to do with a so-called "living wage." It has everything to do with unions attempting to take away people's right to work. It is a direct attack on merit shops (non-union shops) and freedom in general.

It's time to realize these thoroughly corrupt marxist tyrants are nothing more than self-serving bullies and goons whose only interest in the living of these fast food workers is their dues and the control they'll exercise over them once they've indentured them.

They're evil maggots feeding on the corpses of their victims and need to be repudiated whenever they raise their heads from the muck and mire that gives shape to their sleaze.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

This has nothing to do with a so-called "living wage." It has everything to do with unions attempting to take away people's right to work. It is a direct attack on merit shops (non-union shops) and freedom in general.

It's time to realize these thoroughly corrupt marxist tyrants are nothing more than self-serving bullies and goons whose only interest in the living of these fast food workers is their dues and the control they'll exercise over them once they've indentured them.

They're evil maggots feeding on the corpses of their victims and need to be repudiated whenever they raise their heads from the muck and mire that gives shape to their sleaze.

Lost in all of this is the reality that the number attached to the minimum wage doesn't mean much. It can be $100/hour, but if a loaf of bread costs $80, you've gained nothing. The unions are simply exploiting ignorance.
 
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Lost in all of this is the reality that the number attached to the minimum wage doesn't mean much. It can be $100/hour, but if a loaf of bread costs $80, you've gained nothing. The unions are simply exploiting ignorance.

Greetings, Humbolt. :2wave:

:agree: And it's going to get even better! Human nature being what it is, all the people currently making $15 an hour will demand a 50 percent increase because they have more talent than someone who only knows how to drop a bag of raw potatoes into boiling grease to make French fries, bringing them to $30 an hour; then those currently making $30 an hour will expect a 50 percent increase because they've been there longer and seniority has to count for something since they're expected to manage the lesser talented employees; and so on, ad nauseam.

I read somewhere recently that the average pay at McDonalds nationwide is $9 per hour. Jumping that to $15 an hour is over a 60 percent increase in pay, if my math is correct. I'm thinking back to when I worked full time and what my boss's reaction might have been had I asked for an immediate 60 per cent increase in pay. He'd still be laughing at that one, while recounting it to his friends at cocktail parties!

When was it decided that businesses should be expected to serve as social welfare establishments anyway? This is going to mean a big loss in jobs, I fear, since business doesn't have the luxury of having access to taxpayer money like the government does. There's a reason why businesses like GM went to robotics - it was cheaper! Could McDonalds do the same?
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Greetings, Humbolt. :2wave:

:agree: And it's going to get even better! Human nature being what it is, all the people currently making $15 an hour will demand a 50 percent increase because they have more talent than someone who only knows how to drop a bag of raw potatoes into boiling grease to make French fries, bringing them to $30 an hour; then those currently making $30 an hour will expect a 50 percent increase because they've been there longer and seniority has to count for something since they're expected to manage the lesser talented employees; and so on, ad nauseam.

I read somewhere recently that the average pay at McDonalds nationwide is $9 per hour. Jumping that to $15 an hour is over a 60 percent increase in pay, if my math is correct. I'm thinking back to when I worked full time and what my boss's reaction might have been had I asked for an immediate 60 per cent increase in pay. He'd still be laughing at that one, while recounting it to his friends at cocktail parties!

When was it decided that businesses should be expected to serve as social welfare establishments anyway? This is going to mean a big loss in jobs, I fear, since business doesn't have the luxury of having access to taxpayer money like the government does. There's a reason why businesses like GM went to robotics - it was cheaper! Could McDonalds do the same?

They'll price themselves out of the market in short order (no pun intended). The unions would like to believe they can control the market, but we live in a global economy now whether they like it or not. I agree this business will either automate or fill the void with third world workers, or both. I don't want to see these people cut their own throats, but there's not much I can do to stop them if they're intent on doing it. I just watch in amazement as these people go for the poisoned carrot.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

She doesn't have the resources to do it.
you have to put down 40% of the cost of the restaurant.

however I would rather open a chick fil a. it only takes 10000 to open a chick fil a, but their interview process is a beast.
I met someone that knew the owners of chick fil a. I think 90% of the people that apply for a franchise are shot down.

even if she did open one.

she would soon realize that it is not possible to pay people 15 dollars an hour and stay open.
so lets look at this logically.

at 15 dollars an hour working 8 hours a day with 8 people on a shift. that is 960 dollars for 1 day payroll (that is nothing else just payroll.)
even at 10 dollars a burger (who the heck would pay that for a mcdonalds burger?) that is still 96 burgers a day you have to sell.
since we all know that no one in their right mind would pay 10 bucks for a mcdonalds burger that means the price has to go down.

even at 5 dollars that is still 192 burgers.

that is just to meet payroll for the day that doesn't include water, electric or any other overhead costs. not to mention that you have to pay 4%
of your receipts to corporate for franchising fee's.

You're making that up. She said its all done with free money from the government. :roll:
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

You're making that up. She said its all done with free money from the government. :roll:

oopss my mistake I forget everything in life is free from the government. :lamo
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Really? Those were your only options? Please give us a break.
Apparently you didn't go to school for IT back in the 90s. ;)

Let me know when you are enticed into a career field only to see it die while you are in college(while gaining tons of debt). That is where my skills were back when I was in high school, and of course with the way the internet and IT was booming, it seemed like an obvious choice.

You must have missed the part where I said small town, therefore lack of choices of jobs in the state I was in. I wasn't in Washington State at the time.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Fight the good fight! Nobody working full time in the United States should be living in poverty.

McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a rise | Business | The Guardian

Thousands of McDonald’s employees and union activists descended on the company’s headquarters near Chicago on Thursday to hold the biggest ever protest against “poverty wages” paid to most of its 400,000 employees, as the company’s board gathered for its annual shareholder meeting. About 5,000 McDonald’s employees from across the US chanted: “We work, we sweat, put $15 in our cheque” as they marched towards the burger giant’s headquarters holding banners reading “McDonald’s: $15 and Union Rights, Not Food Stamps.” As the meeting began protesters delivered a petition signed by 1.4m people calling on the company to support a $15 minimum wage and to respect workers’ rights to unionize.

“We’re here to tell McDonald’s and its shareholders to invest in the company and its workers instead of wealthy hedge fund managers and executives,” said Kwanza Brooks, a McDonald’s worker and mother of three from Charlotte, North Carolina, who is paid $7.25 an hour. “We’re tired of relying on food stamps to feed our own families. We need $15 and the right to form a union and we need it now.” Terrence Wise, 35, travelled 12 hours by bus from Kansas City with his three young daughters. “Was it worth it to stand here? Yes definitely. I want my voice to be heard. I’ve worked at McDonald’s and Burger King for 11 years earning $8 an hour. I have three little girls to care for. I work two jobs, my partner works too, yet we still struggle to survive. We rely on food stamps. I don’t want to live on food stamps, I want to get paid what I deserve and work hard for. McDonald’s can clearly afford to pay us a living wage. They need to, now.”

First I agree with the $15.00 in their check. That is what they are worth, $15.00

Now I want to know how many of the so called McDonald's employees were actually employees of the company as opposed to union operatives posing as employees.
 
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McDonald's: 'Union attack' on the brand - May. 21, 2015

About 2,000 people took part in a peaceful protest Wednesday outside the fast-food chain's corporate offices in Oak Brook, Ill., according to the local police department. Organizers said 5,000 fast-food cooks and cashiers joined in the march.

On Thursday, protesters hope to deliver a petition with more than one million signatures calling on McDonald's (MCD) to raise wages to $15 an hour.

McDonald's charged the demonstrations are part of an $80-million publicity campaign by the Service Employees International Union, which is working to organize workers across the fast-food industry.

"The union has spent its members' dues money in the past two years attacking the McDonald's brand...in an unsuccessful attempt to unionize workers," the company said in a statement.


Fast food workers and those in other low-wage jobs have been taking to the streets over the past two years to demand wages of at least $15 an hour. Last year, more than 100 workers were arrested at McDonald's annual shareholder meeting.

Many McDonald's workers say they are forced to rely on public assistance, while the company has rewarded investors by buying back billions worth of stock over the years.

"It's time for McDonald's to respect the workers on the front lines as much as they have respected shareholders by putting $30 billion in their pockets over the last 10 years," said SEIU president Mary Kay Henry.
McDonald's said the company and its independent franchise owners "are standing strong and together in the face of this union attack."



and progressives wonder why unions are losing favor?

hey...i got an idea....let's attack Mcdonald's in an 80 million campaign with our workers dues.....

that has to be a GOOD USE for them, right?

lfmao....the stupidity

You would think unions would learn their lesson.

They unionized factories and those jobs disappeared to other countries.


What do they think will happen here?
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

LOL

The beauty of these SEIU Union Thug backed actions is it illustrates just how pathetic many of these people truly are. $8/hr, for 11 years. :shock:

If that isn't a testament to the overall failure of our liberal education system, I don't know what could illustrate it better. 11 years of buying the company line from liberal/progressives, and now they are buying the line from one of the most corrupt labor unions in the United States.

Society doesn't need to set policy based on failure. It should set it based on examples of success.

Leave it to Prog/Libs to champion failure as a roll model for success.

Why would they put a loser like that in the story knowing we will see him for what he is?

That doesn't help their narrative, well maybe in their mind it does.
 
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Why would they put a loser like that in the story knowing we will see him for what he is?

That doesn't help their narrative, well maybe in their mind it does.

When marketing swamp land in Florida, it's important to remember the target audience. The people who see through the smoke and mirrors aren't the target audience. They are the ones who would believe all those signatures, and all those people, are actually McDonald's employees, and not SEIU union thug activists paid by the crooked money the SEIU has taken from taxpayers.
 
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Fascinating how conservatives look down on the less fortunate people and how they actually root against other working people.

Compassionate conservatism and it's idea of trying to improve the general welfare of society is dead and gone. It's been replaced by vicious greedy people who worship their politics and selfish ideology.

Who would these less fortunate people be?
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Fight the good fight! Nobody working full time in the United States should be living in poverty.

McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a rise | Business | The Guardian

Thousands of McDonald’s employees and union activists descended on the company’s headquarters near Chicago on Thursday to hold the biggest ever protest against “poverty wages” paid to most of its 400,000 employees, as the company’s board gathered for its annual shareholder meeting. About 5,000 McDonald’s employees from across the US chanted: “We work, we sweat, put $15 in our cheque” as they marched towards the burger giant’s headquarters holding banners reading “McDonald’s: $15 and Union Rights, Not Food Stamps.” As the meeting began protesters delivered a petition signed by 1.4m people calling on the company to support a $15 minimum wage and to respect workers’ rights to unionize.

“We’re here to tell McDonald’s and its shareholders to invest in the company and its workers instead of wealthy hedge fund managers and executives,” said Kwanza Brooks, a McDonald’s worker and mother of three from Charlotte, North Carolina, who is paid $7.25 an hour. “We’re tired of relying on food stamps to feed our own families. We need $15 and the right to form a union and we need it now.” Terrence Wise, 35, travelled 12 hours by bus from Kansas City with his three young daughters. “Was it worth it to stand here? Yes definitely. I want my voice to be heard. I’ve worked at McDonald’s and Burger King for 11 years earning $8 an hour. I have three little girls to care for. I work two jobs, my partner works too, yet we still struggle to survive. We rely on food stamps. I don’t want to live on food stamps, I want to get paid what I deserve and work hard for. McDonald’s can clearly afford to pay us a living wage. They need to, now.”

Anyone satisfied working at McDonalds for eight bucks an hour deserves eight bucks an hour. Minimum wage jobs aren't supposed to be a career. They are a starting point in a working life and a resume builder that should lead to better things. I saw a Bernie Sanders video this morning in which he said the real unemployment rate was 13%. I agree with Bernie about this, probably the only thing Bernie and I agree about. Lots of people looking or out of work. Fire the malcontents and hire new crews.
 
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They'll price themselves out of the market in short order (no pun intended). The unions would like to believe they can control the market, but we live in a global economy now whether they like it or not. I agree this business will either automate or fill the void with third world workers, or both. I don't want to see these people cut their own throats, but there's not much I can do to stop them if they're intent on doing it. I just watch in amazement as these people go for the poisoned carrot.

Can you imagine unionizing fast food workers so they are like teachers and they can't be fired?

Scary
 
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Can you imagine unionizing fast food workers so they are like teachers and they can't be fired?

Scary

It would be for them, because they'd lack the protections teachers enjoy. There is no required fast food entity. It's sink or swim in the free market. You know they'll go bust because they have no knowledge or appreciation of the costs and effort involved in operating a successful business. They just see a paycheck, and that's all they're looking for. I've had many such employees - they'd calculate what they needed to get by for the week, and that determined the amount of work they were interested in doing. Usually it worked like this: rent, food, gas, beer, cigarettes, and anything left over went for weed, clothing and car parts, in that order. Children were paid for with government assistance, and if the wife made anything, that went to lottery tickets. Yeah, it seems like a cynical caricature, but in my experience at least, unfortunately true.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

It would be for them, because they'd lack the protections teachers enjoy. There is no required fast food entity. It's sink or swim in the free market. You know they'll go bust because they have no knowledge or appreciation of the costs and effort involved in operating a successful business. They just see a paycheck, and that's all they're looking for. I've had many such employees - they'd calculate what they needed to get by for the week, and that determined the amount of work they were interested in doing. Usually it worked like this: rent, food, gas, beer, cigarettes, and anything left over went for weed, clothing and car parts, in that order. Children were paid for with government assistance, and if the wife made anything, that went to lottery tickets. Yeah, it seems like a cynical caricature, but in my experience at least, unfortunately true.

It is not a caricature if it is reality.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Apparently you didn't go to school for IT back in the 90s. ;)

Let me know when you are enticed into a career field only to see it die while you are in college(while gaining tons of debt). That is where my skills were back when I was in high school, and of course with the way the internet and IT was booming, it seemed like an obvious choice.

You must have missed the part where I said small town, therefore lack of choices of jobs in the state I was in. I wasn't in Washington State at the time.

There are always more options. You simply weren't willing to explore them. To claim you only have two options is simply untrue.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

First I agree with the $15.00 in their check. That is what they are worth, $15.00

Now I want to know how many of the so called McDonald's employees were actually employees of the company as opposed to union operatives posing as employees.

Why exactly are they worth $15 an hour? Please be specific. Does this mean laborers and skilled tradesman making $15 will get a raise as well?
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Why exactly are they worth $15 an hour? Please be specific. Does this mean laborers and skilled tradesman making $15 will get a raise as well?

That is one major concern is all the workers, many of whom are more educated and have a better work record, who make between mcdonalds wage and $15 would become screwed by this. Really it would need to be like what LA just did and raise the city's wage to $15/hr

Also disconcerting is they expect sympathy from mcdonalds. They should instead gather other workers making poverty wages, from various industries, and protest at city hall or the state capital, or even D.C., places where they have a right to be heard and have a snowball's chance in hell someone there will listen. Become aware of politicians who have done nothing to raise the minimum wage and hold them accountable. But probably most of them don't even vote or have any idea who their representatives are.
 
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I'll hint, it's not that hard. Or at least, most I see working there don't work all that hard. I worked at a fast food chicken place when I was a teenager, I got regular raises, and worked pretty hard. But for a young person, the work shouldn't really be all that physically taxing.

That's the trouble with many young people today, they think the raise comes first, then the motivation. That's not how it works. This is the entitlement mentality we have cultivated in this country. Thanks FDR. :roll:

And seriously, have you been to a McDonald's lately? Fifteen bucks an hour? Surely you jest. :roll: I have walked out on multiple occasions after being ignored by multiple employees. A simple "we'll be right with you", would go a long ways. I'm sure once they are starting out at $15 an hour that'll all change. :roll:

And, even though someone mentioned a "dollar menu", for the most part, McDonald's is very expensive (all fast food is these days). A tiny little egg mcmuffin is almost five bucks. How expensive do you think fast food will become when the starting wage is $15 an hour? This is a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

The problem lies, not everyone is a candidate for college or have the desire to go and since we live in a free society, they have the right to make that decision. We used to have a place for those folks in manufacturing, where you could earn a decent middle class wage and support a family without higher education. I grew up around the Detroit area and you could easily graduate HS and start working for the auto companies. I dated a guy who earned 25.00 per hour in the early 80's just putting on windshield wipers as the cars rolled down the line, some days there were a 20 minute gap between cars. That takes as much talent as flipping burgers. A great majority of our lower paid work force is being supplemented by food stamps...and the middle class tax payer is footing the bill while CEO's are sailing around the world in yachts. The manufacturing jobs are gone now...and are now part of the retail and service industry. Large corporations such as McDonalds have the ability to pay their workforce and provide relief to the taxpayers and still maintain record profits. It is just a matter if they choose to do it or not. Punishing the consumer is a fear tactic used by these companies. If McDonald's raises prices on food in retaliation for paying a livable wage to their workforce..then we as the consumer can decide whether or not to purchase their food or products.
 
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Why exactly are they worth $15 an hour? Please be specific. Does this mean laborers and skilled tradesman making $15 will get a raise as well?

possibly most union contracts if they are union have me to clauses. IE they get an increase in wage as well.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

Apparently you didn't go to school for IT back in the 90s. ;)

Let me know when you are enticed into a career field only to see it die while you are in college(while gaining tons of debt). That is where my skills were back when I was in high school, and of course with the way the internet and IT was booming, it seemed like an obvious choice.

You must have missed the part where I said small town, therefore lack of choices of jobs in the state I was in. I wasn't in Washington State at the time.

I did. I had to move to get a better job from where I was at.
Then I had to move again when that didn't pan out.

Now I have a great career in the IT field and I travel around the world.
IT didn't die in the 90's it changed. the .com bust hurt but it didn't die.
 
Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

The problem lies, not everyone is a candidate for college or have the desire to go and since we live in a free society, they have the right to make that decision. We used to have a place for those folks in manufacturing, where you could earn a decent middle class wage and support a family without higher education. I grew up around the Detroit area and you could easily graduate HS and start working for the auto companies. I dated a guy who earned 25.00 per hour in the early 80's just putting on windshield wipers as the cars rolled down the line, some days there were a 20 minute gap between cars. That takes as much talent as flipping burgers. A great majority of our lower paid work force is being supplemented by food stamps...and the middle class tax payer is footing the bill while CEO's are sailing around the world in yachts. The manufacturing jobs are gone now...and are now part of the retail and service industry. Large corporations such as McDonalds have the ability to pay their workforce and provide relief to the taxpayers and still maintain record profits. It is just a matter if they choose to do it or not. Punishing the consumer is a fear tactic used by these companies. If McDonald's raises prices on food in retaliation for paying a livable wage to their workforce..then we as the consumer can decide whether or not to purchase their food or products.

yep and that is why the big 3 were in such trouble. there is no reason to pay a guy 25 bucks an hour to just put windshield wipers on cars then stand around for 20 minutes not doing anything. out of a half hour they only get 2 minutes of work per car.

the manufacturing jobs are gone for a reason. to much regulation and to many greedy unions have made it impossible to have manufacturing here in America.
it is simply too expensive.

80% of mcdonalds are not owned by the corporations. they are franchise companies and independent stores.
what the employee's get paid are up to the owners of the franchise not mcdonalds corporate.

that is something people just don't understand.

no one is going to pay 15 dollars for a mcdonalds meal so the drive through guy can make 15 an hour. they are barely paying the price now as mcdonalds is in a tail spin and losing ground
to better burger joints.
 
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