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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    No there hasn't because people aren't actually doing it company wide, so the cost increase is even smaller than the studies would indicate.



    Someone being told "no" is not their fault and shouldn't have the blame placed on them or be told they are "stupid". Out of touch with min wage workers is what it appears to me is going on with your thoughts so far.



    This was how many years ago?

    There is no reason to have food stamps to supplement a working person, (full time mind you) when the businesses they work at are easily able to pay for a living wage.
    Food stamps are the cost of bad government policy. There is no reason to shift bad policy costs on mcdonalds. It's not McDonald's fault the environmentalists wackos decided to take over the government and save a stupid owl or a giant vulture that can't feed itself.

    Seriously people could make good money working on shell oil rigs, yet the same city government that passed 15 an hour is trying to shut that down, the same city government that passed 15 per hour is shutting down freeways and building 100 foot long 10 billion dollar holes in the ground with a broken machine sitting in them, why should Ronald pick up the idiocy costs that are preventing union jobs in the first place?
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Franchisees are independent businesses (often Mom & Pop) and very rarely have to follow corporate salary rules. So picketing McDonald's corporate is just stupid. Franchisees generally know their marketplace and run on very close margins. And locality is important to consider here. If you're in an town with plenty of education opportunities it's most likely any employees worth keeping over a year will either advance in the company or be moving on the moment they get their degree/certification.

    And if you're still working for minimum wage after working the same damn place for 11 years, it's not BS, you're dumb as dirt, unless that's right where you want to be for some reason.

    And no one has even hinted that it's not hard work.
    I'll hint, it's not that hard. Or at least, most I see working there don't work all that hard. I worked at a fast food chicken place when I was a teenager, I got regular raises, and worked pretty hard. But for a young person, the work shouldn't really be all that physically taxing.

    That's the trouble with many young people today, they think the raise comes first, then the motivation. That's not how it works. This is the entitlement mentality we have cultivated in this country. Thanks FDR.

    And seriously, have you been to a McDonald's lately? Fifteen bucks an hour? Surely you jest. I have walked out on multiple occasions after being ignored by multiple employees. A simple "we'll be right with you", would go a long ways. I'm sure once they are starting out at $15 an hour that'll all change.

    And, even though someone mentioned a "dollar menu", for the most part, McDonald's is very expensive (all fast food is these days). A tiny little egg mcmuffin is almost five bucks. How expensive do you think fast food will become when the starting wage is $15 an hour? This is a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    Yes, I did. After the tech bubble burst, my options were change majors and become more in debt and hope there is a different job when I got out, or continue to work at the Fast Food and eventually try to move up the ladder.
    Really? Those were your only options? Please give us a break.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    There is no reason they couldn't have raises periodically over the year(s).



    Calling someone stupid and an idiot is looking down on them. I don't care how you want to justify it.



    Oh I see, so my experience goes against your personal view so it doesn't count? That is usually what happens to people when they realize that others have the experience to back up their claims. "Well it doesn't fit with what I wanted it to, so you have to be wrong". The deposits, which I ran every night and helped do the ordering for in the store (weekly or twice weekly orders) showed a pretty healthy margin. Then again, I didn't see the labor costs but the "owners" weren't exactly poorly off for the area I was in. It was a smaller town, but their business was far from slow.
    How can you figure profit margins from simply running gross deposits? Please elaborate.

    So far, your understanding of how business works if obvious. You don't have a clue. No offense to you, but it is obvious.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    *sigh*

    Why does everyone automatically go the extreme end of things when a statement is made?

    I'm well aware of the start up costs of a franchisee for Mc D's, per usual you guys ignore that its a fixed price for the startup and as the location makes money those "investments" which are mostly loans from the government do go away.

    Its almost as if some people haven't started from scratch before.
    Well then, if it's so easy, why don't you do it?

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Well then, if it's so easy, why don't you do it?
    She doesn't have the resources to do it.
    you have to put down 40% of the cost of the restaurant.

    however I would rather open a chick fil a. it only takes 10000 to open a chick fil a, but their interview process is a beast.
    I met someone that knew the owners of chick fil a. I think 90% of the people that apply for a franchise are shot down.

    even if she did open one.

    she would soon realize that it is not possible to pay people 15 dollars an hour and stay open.
    so lets look at this logically.

    at 15 dollars an hour working 8 hours a day with 8 people on a shift. that is 960 dollars for 1 day payroll (that is nothing else just payroll.)
    even at 10 dollars a burger (who the heck would pay that for a mcdonalds burger?) that is still 96 burgers a day you have to sell.
    since we all know that no one in their right mind would pay 10 bucks for a mcdonalds burger that means the price has to go down.

    even at 5 dollars that is still 192 burgers.

    that is just to meet payroll for the day that doesn't include water, electric or any other overhead costs. not to mention that you have to pay 4%
    of your receipts to corporate for franchising fee's.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    I make over $18 an hour sorting mail into a bucket. Say these burger people were to get $15 an hour, that'd make My wage not look so good. **** them.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Fight the good fight! Nobody working full time in the United States should be living in poverty.

    McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a rise | Business | The Guardian

    Thousands of McDonald’s employees and union activists descended on the company’s headquarters near Chicago on Thursday to hold the biggest ever protest against “poverty wages” paid to most of its 400,000 employees, as the company’s board gathered for its annual shareholder meeting. About 5,000 McDonald’s employees from across the US chanted: “We work, we sweat, put $15 in our cheque” as they marched towards the burger giant’s headquarters holding banners reading “McDonald’s: $15 and Union Rights, Not Food Stamps.” As the meeting began protesters delivered a petition signed by 1.4m people calling on the company to support a $15 minimum wage and to respect workers’ rights to unionize.

    “We’re here to tell McDonald’s and its shareholders to invest in the company and its workers instead of wealthy hedge fund managers and executives,” said Kwanza Brooks, a McDonald’s worker and mother of three from Charlotte, North Carolina, who is paid $7.25 an hour. “We’re tired of relying on food stamps to feed our own families. We need $15 and the right to form a union and we need it now.” Terrence Wise, 35, travelled 12 hours by bus from Kansas City with his three young daughters. “Was it worth it to stand here? Yes definitely. I want my voice to be heard. I’ve worked at McDonald’s and Burger King for 11 years earning $8 an hour. I have three little girls to care for. I work two jobs, my partner works too, yet we still struggle to survive. We rely on food stamps. I don’t want to live on food stamps, I want to get paid what I deserve and work hard for. McDonald’s can clearly afford to pay us a living wage. They need to, now.”
    This has nothing to do with a so-called "living wage." It has everything to do with unions attempting to take away people's right to work. It is a direct attack on merit shops (non-union shops) and freedom in general.

    It's time to realize these thoroughly corrupt marxist tyrants are nothing more than self-serving bullies and goons whose only interest in the living of these fast food workers is their dues and the control they'll exercise over them once they've indentured them.

    They're evil maggots feeding on the corpses of their victims and need to be repudiated whenever they raise their heads from the muck and mire that gives shape to their sleaze.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    This has nothing to do with a so-called "living wage." It has everything to do with unions attempting to take away people's right to work. It is a direct attack on merit shops (non-union shops) and freedom in general.

    It's time to realize these thoroughly corrupt marxist tyrants are nothing more than self-serving bullies and goons whose only interest in the living of these fast food workers is their dues and the control they'll exercise over them once they've indentured them.

    They're evil maggots feeding on the corpses of their victims and need to be repudiated whenever they raise their heads from the muck and mire that gives shape to their sleaze.
    Lost in all of this is the reality that the number attached to the minimum wage doesn't mean much. It can be $100/hour, but if a loaf of bread costs $80, you've gained nothing. The unions are simply exploiting ignorance.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Lost in all of this is the reality that the number attached to the minimum wage doesn't mean much. It can be $100/hour, but if a loaf of bread costs $80, you've gained nothing. The unions are simply exploiting ignorance.
    Greetings, Humbolt.

    : And it's going to get even better! Human nature being what it is, all the people currently making $15 an hour will demand a 50 percent increase because they have more talent than someone who only knows how to drop a bag of raw potatoes into boiling grease to make French fries, bringing them to $30 an hour; then those currently making $30 an hour will expect a 50 percent increase because they've been there longer and seniority has to count for something since they're expected to manage the lesser talented employees; and so on, ad nauseam.

    I read somewhere recently that the average pay at McDonalds nationwide is $9 per hour. Jumping that to $15 an hour is over a 60 percent increase in pay, if my math is correct. I'm thinking back to when I worked full time and what my boss's reaction might have been had I asked for an immediate 60 per cent increase in pay. He'd still be laughing at that one, while recounting it to his friends at cocktail parties!

    When was it decided that businesses should be expected to serve as social welfare establishments anyway? This is going to mean a big loss in jobs, I fear, since business doesn't have the luxury of having access to taxpayer money like the government does. There's a reason why businesses like GM went to robotics - it was cheaper! Could McDonalds do the same?

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