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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    If this keeps up, some smart guy is going to design a BurgerMaster 3000 that will make burgers and fries automatically. You'll walk up to kiosk, tap in your order, swipe your card and in 2 minutes a bag of food will emerge on a conveyor for you to pick up. Then these dimwits will no longer be whining about wages, they'll be whining that their state issued food stamp card won't work at the kiosk.
    If you can buy pizza out of a vending machine, your scenario isn't far off.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    and this is the crux of the stupidity

    most mcdonalds are NOT owned by the corporation

    they are owned, and independently operated by franchisees

    even if the CEO of mcdonalds wanted this to happen....he doesnt have the power

    want to earn more than MW....learn a few skills.....go to work on time, everyday

    when offered a chance at more responsibility....take it

    when offered a chance to learn something else.....take it

    that gets you raises and promotions
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    and this is the crux of the stupidity

    most mcdonalds are NOT owned by the corporation

    they are owned, and independently operated by franchisees

    even if the CEO of mcdonalds wanted this to happen....he doesnt have the power

    want to earn more than MW....learn a few skills.....go to work on time, everyday

    when offered a chance at more responsibility....take it

    when offered a chance to learn something else.....take it

    that gets you raises and promotions
    It's amazing how that simple formula is so often ignored.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You know this how? What sort of fast food places are you talking about? Corporate owned, franchise, independent? There's quite a mix. I can tell you the corporate ones do.
    I've worked at several during Highschool and College years.

    First one was a Franchisee McDonalds, I was there over a year and a half. There was no raise given or promised and when I asked before I left, they told me they don't give yearly raises only when you change your position from say Crew Member to Supervisor or etc.

    Second one was a Taco Johns, (local type Taco Bell), same deal its a regional franchisee and once again, after a year or so asking for a raise they said they don't offer them either.

    I spent my due time in the fast food industry when I was younger, and yes those people do work more than some people realize. Its the same deal with retail employees, the hell that is customer service industry in general is often frowned upon by those that haven't been there before.

    "Hur durr only dumb people work there" that is total BS.

    I'm sure there are some that do, In-n-Out and Jack-In-the-Box are two I can think of off the top of my head, but they also don't pay minimum wage when you start.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    I've worked at several during Highschool and College years.

    First one was a Franchisee McDonalds, I was there over a year and a half. There was no raise given or promised and when I asked before I left, they told me they don't give yearly raises only when you change your position from say Crew Member to Supervisor or etc.

    Second one was a Taco Johns, (local type Taco Bell), same deal its a regional franchisee and once again, after a year or so asking for a raise they said they don't offer them either.

    I spent my due time in the fast food industry when I was younger, and yes those people do work more than some people realize. Its the same deal with retail employees, the hell that is customer service industry in general is often frowned upon by those that haven't been there before.

    "Hur durr only dumb people work there" that is total BS.

    I'm sure there are some that do, In-n-Out and Jack-In-the-Box are two I can think of off the top of my head, but they also don't pay minimum wage when you start.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Did you ever consider those jobs you had as career opportunities?
    At the time I was going through College, prior to my majors change? When I started college a lot of us were assured the industry we were in would always be growing, but we all know how well that tech bubble burst in the late 90s.

    Yes, I did.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    At the time I was going through College, prior to my majors change? When I started college a lot of us were assured the industry we were in would always be growing, but we all know how well that tech bubble burst in the late 90s.

    Yes, I did.
    I was thinking of the fast food jobs. Did you consider those to be career jobs?
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    I've worked at several during Highschool and College years.

    First one was a Franchisee McDonalds, I was there over a year and a half. There was no raise given or promised and when I asked before I left, they told me they don't give yearly raises only when you change your position from say Crew Member to Supervisor or etc.

    Second one was a Taco Johns, (local type Taco Bell), same deal its a regional franchisee and once again, after a year or so asking for a raise they said they don't offer them either.

    I spent my due time in the fast food industry when I was younger, and yes those people do work more than some people realize. Its the same deal with retail employees, the hell that is customer service industry in general is often frowned upon by those that haven't been there before.

    "Hur durr only dumb people work there" that is total BS.

    I'm sure there are some that do, In-n-Out and Jack-In-the-Box are two I can think of off the top of my head, but they also don't pay minimum wage when you start.
    Franchisees are independent businesses (often Mom & Pop) and very rarely have to follow corporate salary rules. So picketing McDonald's corporate is just stupid. Franchisees generally know their marketplace and run on very close margins. And locality is important to consider here. If you're in an town with plenty of education opportunities it's most likely any employees worth keeping over a year will either advance in the company or be moving on the moment they get their degree/certification.

    And if you're still working for minimum wage after working the same damn place for 11 years, it's not BS, you're dumb as dirt, unless that's right where you want to be for some reason.

    And no one has even hinted that it's not hard work.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I was thinking of the fast food jobs. Did you consider those to be career jobs?
    Yes, I did. After the tech bubble burst, my options were change majors and become more in debt and hope there is a different job when I got out, or continue to work at the Fast Food and eventually try to move up the ladder.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Franchisees are independent businesses (often Mom & Pop) and very rarely have to follow corporate salary rules. So picketing McDonald's corporate is just stupid. Franchisees generally know their marketplace and run on very close margins. And locality is important to consider here. If you're in an town with plenty of education opportunities it's most likely any employees worth keeping over a year will either advance in the company or be moving on the moment they get their degree/certification.

    And if you're still working for minimum wage after working the same damn place for 11 years, it's not BS, you're dumb as dirt, unless that's right where you want to be for some reason.

    And no one has even hinted that it's not hard work.
    I'm sorry but unless they are actually mentally handicapped, most people at the Mc D's that serves your food is not dumb as dirt.

    I understand you look down on them, but that is your own personal agenda and not near the truth.

    The Franchisee's were making bank in both locations that I worked, as is often the case in smaller towns. (Limited options for people to go to)
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