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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

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    You really don't seem to have a problem spending someone else's money on issues you don't truly understand. You judge everyone else by your own standards not realizing that not everyone else has your cost of living. You and liberalism go well together, all knowing, all caring, and yet never solving any social problem with all those good intentions.
    My cost of living is significantly lower than most in my area due to the lack of debt. That being said, when I lived in the Midwest, the cost of living was significantly higher due to the lower wages. If I was doing the same job back in the Midwest that I am doing here I'd be maybe making 2/3rd of what I do now. Which would mean zero mobility chance even with little to no debt.

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    Economically you can't uncouple wages and production. It's unsustainable.
    That isn't true at all and that is the point of what the minimum wage did. Sadly however, businesses have since made it stagnant(Lobbying) and that is why it isn't increasing for inflation like it should be.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

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    I never said 15.00 an hour was a high wage. I still maintain that anyone staying in an entry level position is not motivated or has reached their level of incompetency.

    I AM out of touch with the work force today. I AM RETIRED!!!!! I spent a long time saving my money so I could RETIRE. We lived well below our means for decades to save for retirement. When I got back from Iraq the Army said I my hearing was shot so they retired me. I worked as a roofer, taco bender, steel worker, auto mechanic, carpet layer, framer, electrician, bucked hay, day labor doing whatever they had for me that day and finally aircraft mechanic. I took a lot of low paying jobs just to eat and pay for gas. That is how you earn something. Nobody is owed anything. Nobody deserves anything until they earn it.

    Oh yeah, in two years my wife will retire too and both of us will be RETIRED!!! Just two old farts and a dog wandering around in the mountains enjoying being RETIRED!!!!

    My first job was at Taco Bell at 3.65 an hour, that was in the 70's.
    Then you are out of touch with the common work force and have been for several decades. You are old enough at this point that you have lost touch with minimum wage workers.

    Fyi, in 1970 your 3.65 is equivlent to $22.90 today(47,000$/yr). So not only did you make significantly more than $15/hr but that was solid middle class, working at taco bell. Today that is barely above the poverty line 7.25(15,080$/yr).

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    Impressive eh?

    I'd totally approve wages being what they were in the 1970s, adjusted for inflation.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    My cost of living is significantly lower than most in my area due to the lack of debt. That being said, when I lived in the Midwest, the cost of living was significantly higher due to the lower wages. If I was doing the same job back in the Midwest that I am doing here I'd be maybe making 2/3rd of what I do now. Which would mean zero mobility chance even with little to no debt.


    That isn't true at all and that is the point of what the minimum wage did. Sadly however, businesses have since made it stagnant(Lobbying) and that is why it isn't increasing for inflation like it should be.
    Your cost of living is yours and to pretend that you know what others have for a cost of living is typical liberalism but thanks for admitting that every state has a different cost of living and thus every state can do what your did. No one needs the federal bureaucrats in D.C. to tell a private business in your state what to pay its workers. That is up to the people of the state, not the federal government. There are more than half the states in the nation that have a minimum wage higher than the minimum wage and that is where the responsibility lies, at the state and local level, not the federal level.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    Then you are out of touch with the common work force and have been for several decades. You are old enough at this point that you have lost touch with minimum wage workers.

    Fyi, in 1970 your 3.65 is equivlent to $22.90 today(47,000$/yr). So not only did you make significantly more than $15/hr but that was solid middle class, working at taco bell. Today that is barely above the poverty line 7.25(15,080$/yr).

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    Impressive eh?

    I'd totally approve wages being what they were in the 1970s, adjusted for inflation.
    Do you make minimum wage and if not why not? I employed over 1200 employees and never paid minimum wage because the market wouldn't allow it. Where does personal responsibility lie in your world? IF someone makes minimum wage for years why is that the private business's fault and not the employees?

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    Then you are out of touch with the common work force and have been for several decades. You are old enough at this point that you have lost touch with minimum wage workers.

    Fyi, in 1970 your 3.65 is equivlent to $22.90 today(47,000$/yr). So not only did you make significantly more than $15/hr but that was solid middle class, working at taco bell. Today that is barely above the poverty line 7.25(15,080$/yr).

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    Impressive eh?

    I'd totally approve wages being what they were in the 1970s, adjusted for inflation.
    Not historic or accurate, The Federal minimum wage did not hit $3.65 until after 1988,
    U.S. Department of Labor - Wage & Hour Divisions (WHD) - CHANGES IN BASIC MINIMUM WAGES IN NON-FARM EMPLOYMENT UNDER STATE LAW: SELECTED YEARS 1968 TO 2013
    which using your own calculator makes it $7.30 per hour.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

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    Not historic or accurate, The Federal minimum wage did not hit $3.65 until after 1988,
    U.S. Department of Labor - Wage & Hour Divisions (WHD) - CHANGES IN BASIC MINIMUM WAGES IN NON-FARM EMPLOYMENT UNDER STATE LAW: SELECTED YEARS 1968 TO 2013
    which using your own calculator makes it $7.30 per hour.
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    I take it you missed the point where I said he was solid middle class while working at taco bell? He made 22/hr at taco bell, and yet we have people in this thread decrying them making 15/hr in todays wages. Saying they aren't worth it, and etc.

    I didn't say anything about 3.65 being minimum wage in 1970.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your cost of living is yours and to pretend that you know what others have for a cost of living is typical liberalism but thanks for admitting that every state has a different cost of living and thus every state can do what your did. No one needs the federal bureaucrats in D.C. to tell a private business in your state what to pay its workers. That is up to the people of the state, not the federal government. There are more than half the states in the nation that have a minimum wage higher than the minimum wage and that is where the responsibility lies, at the state and local level, not the federal level.
    That is exactly the federal governments job, when people are being taken advantage of, their job is to fix it. They've done it numerous times with the highway system, military, and federally mandated minimum wage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you make minimum wage and if not why not? I employed over 1200 employees and never paid minimum wage because the market wouldn't allow it. Where does personal responsibility lie in your world? IF someone makes minimum wage for years why is that the private business's fault and not the employees?
    I would never want someone to do what I did to escape the black hole that is the Midwest.

    Edit* It lies with the employers when they making people work below the standard of living required to not be on government assistance.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    I take it you missed the point where I said he was solid middle class while working at taco bell? He made 22/hr at taco bell, and yet we have people in this thread decrying them making 15/hr in todays wages. Saying they aren't worth it, and etc.

    I didn't say anything about 3.65 being minimum wage in 1970.
    No! you cherry picked the earliest year of 1970 to make $3.65 equal to $22.
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    The 1970's are from 1970 to 1979, Minimum wage was only close to $3.65 in 1979,
    While it is not accurate,(Because minimum wage in 1979 was only $2.90),
    $3.65 in 1979 would be $11.90, again with your calculator,
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    On a side note Conservative must have been a kick A$$ taco maker to make $3.65
    in the 70's!

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    I'm sorry but no it isn't. They have lied on many occasions and fudged facts when it has fit their agenda. Let me know if you find a better source than something funded by rich conservatives to promote their agenda.
    OH look... another liberal class warrior!! What a shocker!! And is loose with the 'truth" ( Ironically what he false accuses other of doing )
    I gave you an out. You could have made a debate on the merits of your argument, instead chose the lazy person's out'...Gee you can't trust rich conservatives".

    As I said- when Heritage states a fact. It's a fact.

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    There is already a short literature on the
    amount of time workers spend in minimum wage
    jobs. For example, a study by Ralph E. Smith and
    Bruce Vavrichek examined the 1-year earnings
    mobility of workers that initially worked at mini-
    mum wage jobs.
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    They found that 63 percent of
    the minimum-wage workers in their sample were
    employed at higher-than-minimum wage jobs
    1 year later

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    That is exactly the federal governments job, when people are being taken advantage of, their job is to fix it. They've done it numerous times with the highway system, military, and federally mandated minimum wage.



    I would never want someone to do what I did to escape the black hole that is the Midwest.

    Edit* It lies with the employers when they making people work below the standard of living required to not be on government assistance.
    Where is that described in the Constitution as the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to tell a private business what to pay its workers? That isn't what this country was built on and like far too many liberals you think only with your heart and not your brain. That plus you never respond as to why that isn't a state and local responsibility?

    The highway system has nothing to do with this issue as it is funded by the excise taxes you pay when you buy gasoline or other petroleum taxes. It is a use tax.

    No one held a gun to anyone's head to work for minimum wage. Why won't you answer the question, do you work for minimum wage and if so why?

    I was born in Seattle, grew up in the Midwest and know you have no idea what you are talking about when you call it a black hole. One of these days you are going to learn how business works and if you don't like the economy here, Europe is a great place for you

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