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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    They wanted $15/hr - Imgur

    Here's what fifteen bucks an hour looks like.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    This is how I see it as well. If I were "large and in charge" LOL, Corporations would be tax exempt if they met the requirements of the report card to qualify. If they hire Americans on our own soil, pay a fair wage, and provide healthcare, they would be tax exempt. Now the CEO's are a different matter...they should pay their fair share of taxes as well.
    Holy ****!
    This is bs.
    They shouldn't be taxed period as the money that is distributed is taxed.


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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not for minimum wage jobs they don't. C'mon, you're just throwing excuse after excuse as to why you didn't avail yourself of the mobility we have in this country.
    No, I'm not.

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    Line Cook - Mitchell, SD https://sd.craigslist.org/fbh/4980516532.html (75 miles from SF) $9 (Starting) - 12$ (DOE)

    That is a dollar less with no experience and the cities are 75 miles apart, one is 13K(Mitchell) the other is 175K(SF)

    Let's take it one further and go to an even larger town.

    Line-Cook - Aurora https://denver.craigslist.org/fbh/5036513205.html $14.50 Starting

    Line Cook - Seattle https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/fbh/5038024148.html $15.00 Starting


    This just shows you simply are not in touch with how wages haven't kept up in the smaller cities with inflation of the dollar.

    The less you get paid, the harder it is to save especially with limited choices in the smaller towns.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Wow, and right after I told you I made the majority of those moves on my own. For most of them I didn't even have family support, or friends (a bit of a loner when I was young). And no, the "flyover states" are only called that by those who are arrogant idiots of the coasts, and no one refers to them as "economic black holes", except for you maybe in order to make your argument. People move on a wing and a prayer all the time. Never been to LA have you?
    LA is not the MidWest/South, which is what we were discussing. IE the mobility of people in the poorer parts of the country.

    Flyover states is correct term for these states that aren't worth living in, if you are unable to have a special set of skills allowing a higher than minimum wage job.

    I do like the back pedal from "all" to "majority" of the moves on your own. Please, I've was in that position for quite a few years. It took some pretty interesting hurdles to be able to save up enough to move out of a town like Sioux Falls. Where sometimes the wages were alright for the cost of living, this was back when minimum wage was <=$5/hr. Cost of living is a huge factor when rent is sometimes nearly 40% of your income and not having a car is nearly not an option, even when I lived in DT SF, it was still required to get the basics like groceries.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    I've worked at several during Highschool and College years.

    First one was a Franchisee McDonalds, I was there over a year and a half. There was no raise given or promised and when I asked before I left, they told me they don't give yearly raises only when you change your position from say Crew Member to Supervisor or etc.

    Second one was a Taco Johns, (local type Taco Bell), same deal its a regional franchisee and once again, after a year or so asking for a raise they said they don't offer them either.

    I spent my due time in the fast food industry when I was younger, and yes those people do work more than some people realize. Its the same deal with retail employees, the hell that is customer service industry in general is often frowned upon by those that haven't been there before.

    "Hur durr only dumb people work there" that is total BS.

    I'm sure there are some that do, In-n-Out and Jack-In-the-Box are two I can think of off the top of my head, but they also don't pay minimum wage when you start.
    I have been working since I was 10. At 10 I could push carts at the commissary. I did that till my father retired. When I was 13 I worked bucking hay and feeding livestock. When I was 16 I worked at Taco Bell for a year. I then got a full time job working at a Redman building mobile homes. I have had many jobs through the years. I lived in my car after I got out of the Army the first time so I know what hard times are. It is called "entry level" for a reason. Nobody deserves anything unless they earn it. Nobody is entitled to just fall into a 15.00 an hour job. Anyone that works entry level for more than two years is "hurr durr" dumb or non motivated.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    please read post 44 and the attachment

    a million would be on the low end of investments

    hell....a subway franchise costs a cool quarter million

    nothing is cheap anymore....
    Damn, only a quarter mil? Hell, I might just get me a subway. I have that much sitting in the bank doing nothing.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    This of course as his company starts testing workers that don't require absurd pay levels for doing nothing...



    Lets put this into persepective. Burger flippers want $15/hour. Do you guys know how much you pay your EMT's staffing your community ambulance? The median is around $12/hr. No wonder so many of us get burned out so fast.

    So consider that. All these people fighting for burger flippers...when 911 isn't even properly paid. No one's fighting for us...and you actually need us...unlike the burger flippers lol. Puts the world into some real perspective.


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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Constantine View Post
    Lets put this into persepective. Burger flippers want $15/hour. Do you guys know how much you pay your EMT's staffing your community ambulance? The median is around $12/hr. No wonder so many of us get burned out so fast.
    Uhmm you are wrong about EMTs. 31,020 is the average pay given a 40 hour work week that works out to 14.91 per hour.

    EMTs and Paramedics : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmm you are wrong about EMTs. 31,020 is the average pay given a 40 hour work week that works out to 14.91 per hour.

    EMTs and Paramedics : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
    Don't confuse the skills of a EMT and those of a Paramedic. In Ohio, the EMT program is very short. 150 hours and a Paramedic is an Associate Degree. Basic EMT's, if they drive only earn about 10.00 per hour and some are hired in the ED at a little more. Paramedics often find themselves working for the Fire Department. The salaries in the BLS report reflect a average of both salaries. Paramedics make significantly more. Basic EMT's skills are determined by the State they work, and in OH they mostly just transport patients to back and forth between facilities.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmm you are wrong about EMTs. 31,020 is the average pay given a 40 hour work week that works out to 14.91 per hour.

    EMTs and Paramedics : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
    Best tell that to employers. They sure the hell ain't following it!

    Trust me. I run one of the largest EMS/Fire picture blogs on Tumblr. It's a hot button issue on our community. People get heated over it.

    10 years in EMS...dude, I'm not wrong, but thanks for doubting me. I'd kill for $14.91/hr. Most would at this point.


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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by NonoBadDog View Post
    Damn, only a quarter mil? Hell, I might just get me a subway. I have that much sitting in the bank doing nothing.
    that is just for the franchise fee the way i read it

    then you have the lease of the space, equipment needed (the ovens) which i assume you lease from Subway, counters, etc

    the cost of opening a business is the largest deterrent for many

    if people didnt have to put their own hard earned cash into it, everyone and their uncle would want to be their own boss

    it takes money to make money......but people do open franchises....they do it almost every day

    it can be done.....just not easy....nor do i think it should be
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