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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    That of course is the impetus behind the raise the minimum wage movement. But what about the poor non union schlubs? You know, people who actually have a skill or really do work hard.
    we are told tough luck. that is my problem I make good money now, but if the burger flipped makes 15 an hour no one is going to give me a 60% increase in pay and my job is way more difficult requires travel and a whole bunch of other things.

    I will get the same pay increase as I always get.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    This is partly true...so since these company's and CEO's are American...do they have any responsibility to the overall financial health of the folks who work for them...or is it ok to you..that the CEO's and stockholders are living much larger today...enjoying the fruits of this wonderful country..while screwing over the ones who put them where they are? A mistake was made with the Unions and their extortion of wages..but even with that..are we better off today with lower wages and high profits. I could see your point..if these companies were struggling, but they are not and much better off than they were before. So, to you, the best solution was to move the companies into other countries...and screw Americans? This is as unpatriotic as it comes.
    First, understand that a CEO's primary legal duty is to the financial health and profit of the company, NOT the workers, except where part A fits into tab B.

    Second, you're complaining about the (predicted by conservatives) effects of globalization. Globalization has been touted and moved towards by every president and virtually every congress since JFK (often in the direct opposition to the will of the people). The liberals used to see it as a panacea for a wonderful utopian future as a global community. They used to rally around the "leveling of the playing field". Not so much any more now that the effects are felt.

    When you level the playing field, the low spots are lifted by knocking down the high spots. Good news if you live in a low spot, but if you live in a high spot, not so much. This is what you are seeing having lived in a high spot that is being leveled.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    I don't know about this 15 bucks/hr to flip burgers. Let's be honest, there are not many jobs within McDonalds that would constitute an adult job. Working at McDonalds at age 35 doesn't mean you should be making a living wage, it means you f'd up somewhere along the line. There are certainly career paths within the franchise including management and other positions, but that's not the majority of the jobs. Most of those jobs are for teenagers who need to make a little bit of money for their own stuff and perhaps learn a bit about working.

    Instead of raising the wages, perhaps they should just spend some scratch and invest in some engineering in order to automate more of the process. Though it would such for high school kids who need a job.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    we are told tough luck. that is my problem I make good money now, but if the burger flipped makes 15 an hour no one is going to give me a 60% increase in pay and my job is way more difficult requires travel and a whole bunch of other things.

    I will get the same pay increase as I always get.
    How can this be? We're always told that modern liberalism is all about fairness.

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Once we start down the path to a livable wage, beginning at the bottom, it's just a short skip and a jump to determining that really, no one should make more than they need to live, so....

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, I've moved to different locales throughout my lifetime and not once has someone else paid for my move. And large towns don't pay more than minimum wage for minimum wage jobs either.
    FUD, larger towns generally pay more for the same position.

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    I can tell you from personal experience that just aint true.
    I can tell you from personal experience you'd be wrong. I'm glad you got the help to move, but making things up is just silly. There is a reason a lot of the fly over states are called "economic black holes" its hard to escape them without assistance. Be it college acceptance or a job offer from another state. That is why mobility is a luxury.
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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Fight the good fight! Nobody working full time in the United States should be living in poverty.
    Will you assign them greater responsibilities along with higher pay? Will they have to take risks, work longer hours like most salaried people do, give speeches, fire people, etc...?

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I have no idea where to begin. The level of misinformation and lib talking point cliches in your posts is staggering.

    For starters, you do realize anyone with a retirement plan is a "stockholder", right?
    Not really a liberal mindset..and you are deflecting the question. Retirements are a whole different subject and yes...they too hurt companies who are unionized. You seem to be glorifiying these companies who moved their operation to lower paying countries so the CEO's could get richer..and I just can't understand that mindset. It is a typical conservative mindset tho. You guys worship these folks as if they are gods and they would not give you a drink of water if you were dying of thirst. I just think the US is better than what we are doing with our middle class...the class that actually built this country to greatness and now the middle class is dying a slow death. You also complain of regulation...What regulation? We just saw a huge oil spill due to a Texas oil company not bringing their pipe line up to code. I would love not to pay for the services of the EPA...all they are is a government babysitter that the taxpayers pay for to ensure that these companies are doing the right thing. Why do they need to be told basic safety measures or even forced..after all they must be smart..they are earning into the millions. The nation was forced into regulation by greed. Don't you think we are better than China...a country who shuts down their expressways due to smog? or the fact you have to wear a mask to move about the city?

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Once we start down the path to a livable wage, beginning at the bottom, it's just a short skip and a jump to determining that really, no one should make more than they need to live, so....
    Fairly good odds it's not going to be near the top of the range, either. Of course there will be the requisite exemptions made - they are necessary, you know, in order that the rest of the populous again be reminded how little they matter to those who run things.

    It's actually amazing in a way that strangers can just somehow magically know what's best for everyone. It's a tough job, but they feel qualified to do it, and we should appreciate their efforts on our behalf, and cease being the ungrateful wretches that ask questions - which are such an annoyance! :

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    Re: McDonald's boss says he's "proud" of wages as thousands of workers call for a ris

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know about this 15 bucks/hr to flip burgers. Let's be honest, there are not many jobs within McDonalds that would constitute an adult job. Working at McDonalds at age 35 doesn't mean you should be making a living wage, it means you f'd up somewhere along the line. There are certainly career paths within the franchise including management and other positions, but that's not the majority of the jobs. Most of those jobs are for teenagers who need to make a little bit of money for their own stuff and perhaps learn a bit about working.

    Instead of raising the wages, perhaps they should just spend some scratch and invest in some engineering in order to automate more of the process. Though it would such for high school kids who need a job.
    The folks who work at places like McD's, might have had a good job at one time...but lost it during the recession and off shoring. We also have seniors working at these places too...because they lost a big portion of their retirement during the Bush Administration and now forced to work at Walmart or fast food. I admire the folks who swallow their pride and take a job like this after earning a good middle class wage...at least they are paying their way. Nothing wrong with a honest days work. The part that bothers me...they can't live on less than 8 dollars per hour and the taxpayers supplement their wages while the upper crust of the company laughs about it. This should bother any tax payer. Then when these companies start to get nervous about minimum wage hikes..they threaten their customers with higher prices...making us supplement these wages again. I earn a very good wage...I also pay 36% in taxes...but I could care less if someone less fortunate earns more..it is no skin off my nose at all. Anyone with a degree in business, can see when more money is circulated, the better the economy. Higher wages equal more spending power and everyone benefits...right down to the Mom and Pop shop who sells ice cream.

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