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Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

Yet if people are willing to pay $350,000 to shoot an old one on it's last legs, and that money goes to fund conservation projects for the rest, it seems reasonable...

If hes so far on his last legs then why is he "supposedly" constantly fit enough to halt others from breeding before they are ready? This story has holes in it no matter what.
 
If hes so far on his last legs then why is he "supposedly" constantly fit enough to halt others from breeding before they are ready? This story has holes in it no matter what.
It's entirely possible said animal was physically capable of preventing others from breeding but did not have the capability himself anymore.
 
IOW: what you're saying is shut up. What happened to the 1st amendment?

Why are you opposed to freedom of speech? Fill us in.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

Telling someone to shut up is every bit a right of free speech as what was initially said. Forcing them to shut up is another topic... one that didn't happen here.
 
It's entirely possible said animal was physically capable of preventing others from breeding but did not have the capability himself anymore.
It's also entirely possible that this is a ridiculous reason to justify ending someone's life.
 
IOW: what you're saying is shut up. What happened to the 1st amendment?

Why are you opposed to freedom of speech? Fill us in.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
Asking someone to stop, hell, even outright telling someone to shut up, does not equate to preventing their free speech.

Only if your forcibly prevent them from speaking does it reach that point.
 
It's also entirely possible that this is a ridiculous reason to justify ending someone's life.
Quite true.

But it's at least plausible and somewhat reasonable, especially if they made use of the carcass in some way (were there any details on that?).

Better than randomly killing animals just because you can.

It's kinda like how here in PA, the Pennsylvania Game Commission issues limited numbers of hunting licenses for specific types of animals during specific seasons - thereby using willing volunteers to control the deer/bear/whatever populations.

And there exist fines and punishments for people who kill said animals out of season or in an unapproved manner (there exceptions for everything, of course, like handicapped hunters being allowed to use transportation to some degree, whereas everyone else must walk.

At least on state game lands. Privately owned land is basically up to the owner.
 
It's entirely possible said animal was physically capable of preventing others from breeding but did not have the capability himself anymore.

Well no ****. But thats natural.
 
Telling someone to shut up is every bit a right of free speech as what was initially said. Forcing them to shut up is another topic... one that didn't happen here.



Wrong.
If you don't like what someone is saying don't listen to them. :roll:




" The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
 
Wrong.
If you don't like what someone is saying don't listen to them. :roll:

I can tell somebody to shut up if I want to. Why are you opposed to free speech? Fill us in.
 
Asking someone to stop, hell, even outright telling someone to shut up, does not equate to preventing their free speech.

Only if your forcibly prevent them from speaking does it reach that point.



Telling someone to shut up is trying to silence them and cut off their free speech rights.
 
Well, if you really want to redistribute income, you could advertise 13 year old girls virginity for less money and make a huge profit.

that is both illegal and immoral. the hunting was neither.
 
Why did this guy have to kill something to give a $350k donation. This is not about the donation at all. It is the showing off of not only ones ability to afford such a thing, but also ones ability to hunt down what people believe to be a dangerous animal. This guys is playing off of the ignorance of all of you here.
 
The actions I just quoted
Stepping on cockroaches? Or eating flesh of another animal? Well, roaches are lower lifeforms and they are pests. Eating flesh? Well I'm a human and humans are predators and carnivorous. So it is in my nature to eat the flesh of another animal. Thus neither needs to be justified.,
and the killing of this rhino.
I didn't kill any rhino.
 
Why did this guy have to kill something to give a $350k donation.
It wasn't to give a donation, it was to eliminate non breeding animals that prevent the future breeding of offspring. They are simply hunted too much for this to take its natural course. Killing the animal was to allow breeding stock to help the population grow.
This is not about the donation at all. It is the showing off of not only ones ability to afford such a thing, but also ones ability to hunt down what people believe to be a dangerous animal. This guys is playing off of the ignorance of all of you here.
From what I have read about the white rhinos they are extinct.

Northern white rhinoceros - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
It wasn't to give a donation, it was to eliminate non breeding animals that prevent the future breeding of offspring. They are simply hunted too much for this to take its natural course. Killing the animal was to allow breeding stock to help the population grow. From what I have read about the white rhinos they are extinct.

Northern white rhinoceros - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How did mother nature ever manage to regulate populations before great white hunter came along with his chequebook and gun I wonder ? :roll:
 
Only one was causing a problem.


The article did not claim any problems. However, the article did state that they sell 5 kill licences a year (whether the animal is an asshole, old or both). If the hunter is so god-damned concerned about rhinos as he says he is, why doesn't he just donate the money... period? That right... he does not give a flying ****.
 
The actions I just quoted, and the killing of this rhino.


How intellectually stimulating your comments are.

How silly the animal rights idiocy is
 
The article did not claim any problems. However, the article did state that they sell 5 kill licences a year (whether the animal is an asshole, old or both). If the hunter is so god-damned concerned about rhinos as he says he is, why doesn't he just donate the money... period? That right... he does not give a flying ****.

nah he wanted a trophy too. it was a win win for him and the economy of the country that could find some guy who had that much jack to blow
 
The article did not claim any problems. However, the article did state that they sell 5 kill licences a year (whether the animal is an asshole, old or both). If the hunter is so god-damned concerned about rhinos as he says he is, why doesn't he just donate the money... period? That right... he does not give a flying ****.

Its just a dick waving exercise used to secure bragging rights for this macho f*ckwit at his local gun club nothing more :(
 
How silly the animal rights idiocy is

it's even sillier when we look at countries where they put their beliefs into policy...especially African countries.

no better way for force extinction of some of these threatened animals than to ban managed hunts ( which leaves the killing to poachers, who aren't known to fund conservation efforts)


It's no wonder animal population grow and thrive when managed hunts are available... ( keyword is managed)
 
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