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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

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    that's a really stupid comment
    Yep he is full of those.
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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    While some are berating the Namibians for their wildlife management practices, let's remember that both in the United States and Canada we do the exact same thing. Each of our governments in their various jurisdictions issue licenses to hunt all kinds of wildlife at various times of the year, in various locations, and mostly it is to manage the size and health of each species. These licenses, in large part, fund the work of conservationists and environmentalists and the government departments that manage them. Without licenses to fish and hunt, wildlife in North America would be in danger and our society would also be in danger in many places. It's a delicate balance and I think we do a pretty good job of it. I don't begrudge the Africans for doing likewise and I wish them well in their endeavours.
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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you think they would do something that hurts the herd?

    Yes.

    So how about the rhinos that are killed?
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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    While some are berating the Namibians for their wildlife management practices, let's remember that both in the United States and Canada we do the exact same thing. Each of our governments in their various jurisdictions issue licenses to hunt all kinds of wildlife at various times of the year, in various locations, and mostly it is to manage the size and health of each species. These licenses, in large part, fund the work of conservationists and environmentalists and the government departments that manage them. Without licenses to fish and hunt, wildlife in North America would be in danger and our society would also be in danger in many places. It's a delicate balance and I think we do a pretty good job of it. I don't begrudge the Africans for doing likewise and I wish them well in their endeavours.
    Yes we do that. Nature has a natural way of balancing out, but we've completely ****ed up the balance in many cases. With deer, we've taken up a lot of their habitat all the while eliminating many of their predators. So, of course, in order to eliminate the surplus of deer, we have culls. And so on.
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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Very first line in the thread but I'm not surprised you didn't read it. So I will paste it here for you.

    Well not the shooting part that was about culling a sterile male. Please tell me again how you failed to read the op.
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    I read the article that was linked, so it's not my failure. No where did it say anything about the rhino, besides the fat that it was a rhino.
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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Yes.

    So how about the rhinos that are killed?

    But they weren't killed they just conserved the hell out of em. Lock n load

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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Yes we do that. Nature has a natural way of balancing out, but we've completely ****ed up the balance in many cases. With deer, we've taken up a lot of their habitat all the while eliminating many of their predators. So, of course, in order to eliminate the surplus of deer, we have culls. And so on.
    Good morning Middle - hope all it well,

    Not to be disrespectful, but what you state is the problem with most environmentalists and animal rights proponents. You blame man for encroaching on natural habitats without acknowledging that man is, in effect, a natural predator of every other species on the planet. But even as predators, man is the only one with the capacity to mitigate our footprint in ways such as licensing hunts and culling of wildlife that has benefited from our encroachment. I'd say, generally speaking, that those closest to nature are also those most respectful of nature. They live with and support nature every day, not just marching in some protest in a concrete jungle miles from nature. Listening to some environmentalists and conservationists, I'd swear they'd gladly support a human cull rather than license the shooting of any deer.

    Canada is a responsible partner with nature - that's all we can hope, realistically, to be.
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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Yes.

    So how about the rhinos that are killed?
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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    This was all about the thrill for the hunter. I wish people wouldn't pretend that he did this to advance the survival of the species or for some positive reasons. It's dishonest. This was a trophy hunt, nothing more and nothing less.
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    Re: Hunter pays $350,000 to shoot black rhino: 'I believe in survival of species'

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This was all about the thrill for the hunter. I wish people wouldn't pretend that he did this to advance the survival of the species or for some positive reasons. It's dishonest. This was a trophy hunt, nothing more and nothing less.
    Good morning TB,

    You're only looking at one side of the equation. Of course the hunter did it for his own personal reasons. Why else pay $350,000 if not for the experience and the thrill? But the other side of the coin is the Namibian conservationists and species management specialists. They saw a need to eradicate one animal from a herd in order for the herd to expand and prosper and they saw a way to acquire much needed dollars for their programs in order to do it. It's nothing different from what we do here in North America. When deer or black bears or coyotes or whatever get to a point where they need to be culled to better manage, we issue licenses to hunters to do the work for us rather than spend $millions to have government employees do it. In effect, we hire people who pay us to do the work for us. In a sense, it's brilliant and self perpetuating. One of the few things I'd say government here does well. I can't criticize the Namibians for doing likewise.
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