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    Re: Ukraine to honor groups that killed Jews in World War II

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Ukraine has attempted to moderate its approach by stating that individuals known to have either committed or propagandized war crimes can no longer be officially recognized as national heros.

    The Russian concern about facism in Ukraine- and it does exist, is also ironic as a variety of far right Russian groups are used as recruitment pools for pro Russian batallions. Likewise, it was a pro Russian irregular commander, not a a Ukrainian one, who briefly enacted anti Jewish policies.
    We don't disagree about the Russians. I still believe Ukraine would gain more from rescinding the laws in question than preserving even parts of them.

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    Re: Ukraine to honor groups that killed Jews in World War II

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    If you believe that Crimeans did not choose of their own free will to join the Russian Federation then you are truly deluded. The vote was a landslide and that landslide was predicted. To try to claim otherwise is just silly.
    Of course they chose, and quite naturally, Russia responded. The US operations in Libya were legitimized on the basis that the interim government "requested" our help. Just as Crimean's did and Russia responded by securing their people's and assets there. This is why Putin has dug his heels in on this, to his countries hurt by sanctions on principle of this constant dual standard by the West.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine to honor groups that killed Jews in World War II

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    If you believe in that was a "fair election" then I have some North Korea election votes for you to look at.
    Stupid analogy. There are no elections in NK, not even unfair elections.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine to honor groups that killed Jews in World War II

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    A fair election would of had the option of " keep the status quo". This election had no such option and it was also declared invalid by 13 UN council members.

    As for option b I am not going through this again with you, we both know what side of the fence we sit on.
    And when UN council members pass dozens of resolutions against Israel, Suddenly UN council members haven't much relevance.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine to honor groups that killed Jews in World War II

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, There Are Bad Guys in the Ukrainian Government
    It's time for a frank conversation about some of the unsavory characters in Kiev.

    Yes, There Are Bad Guys in the Ukrainian Government | Foreign Policy



    CFR Admits US Staged Coup In Ukraine Colaborating With Neo-fascist/Nazi Elements (which is exactly what Russia has accused Kiev of)

    U.S. and European leaders blundered in attempting to turn Ukraine into a Western stronghold on Russia’s border.

    The United States and its European allies share most of the responsibility for the crisis. The taproot of the trouble is NATO enlargement, the central element of a larger strategy to move Ukraine out of Russia’s orbit and integrate it into the West.
    This is correct, and unfortunately, not reported or under reported in the USA's mainstream media.

    Here's a source for the missing stories. I recommend starting back a year or two with this source for the missing stories: Search Results | The Nation

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