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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Who's we again. I corrected you on this last night. You're not going to get your way with China!
    We is the United States, guy.

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    China isn't warmongering, their not interested in projection, that's a US short coming.
    So china isn't building military bases in the Pacific?

    Tell me, what do you think it is doing?

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well now, with regards to Russia, I don't agree that Obama's actions have been effective. They certainly haven't reversed a thing that Russia's done. But then, if it hadn't been for US interference in Kiev to begin with, nobody would likely have felt a need to giving Russia grief anyway.
    It hasn't reversed what Russia's done...but it's certainly stopped it from getting worse.
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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    China isn't going to go to war with one of its best customers over its aggressive stance. Its got a defensive military that can't project. Its got too much invested in being able to engage in commerce with the rest of the world.

    Its merely emboldened by a weak POTUS who it knows wont do anything. The sad thing is they are right.

    What is it with the left and immediately supplicating to any threat, anywhere? For once, they need to grow a pair and figure out how the world works.
    And you still haven't said what we should do...as in, provide some real details, y'know? With China's new sorta-kinda-man-made islands, what, exactly SHOULD we do, if you as the real testosterone-driven he-man brass-balls American president have the authority to order it done?
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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sure it's symbolic. And symbolism means everything in such high stake bets. You've acknowledged that they're all doing it. We have a big power/resource play at issue. There's no righteous player JANFU!! Everybody has their own angle and argument. China has a precedence to the islands that you won't recognize, but it exists nonetheless. That said, nobody's got a sealed case on them.
    No I do not at this point recognize their claim.
    Now my points from earlier.
    So how about we start with certain areas to be clarified and addressed.
    China and the other countries are signatories to the UN Law of the Sea Convention.
    As such what can be claimed as territorial waters is laid out clearly.
    My opinion, China is not adhering to the Treaty, correct?
    China initially agreed to multiparty talks to address the issue, now has reverted to one on one negotiation’s where significant pressure can be applied by China. Correct?

    Basically China is attempting to shut out the US from an area ( Asia for the US) of immense strategic value to each.
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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And you still haven't said what we should do...as in, provide some real details, y'know? With China's new sorta-kinda-man-made islands, what, exactly SHOULD we do, if you as the real testosterone-driven he-man brass-balls American president have the authority to order it done?
    I already did-make the juice not worth the squeeze.

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We is the United States, guy.
    You don't speak for the United States, you speak for yourself.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You don't speak for the United States, you speak for yourself.
    So your premise is that instead of saying "We dont need to go to war with China", it would have been more appropriate in context to say "I dont need to go to war with China"?

    I love the stands you take, Monte.

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont think Hillary will make it past the primaries, but in the off chance she does become POTUS, she's pretty hawkish, isn't she?
    No more than Obama.

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    No more than Obama.
    How'd she vote on Iraq?

    Did she push to go into Libya?


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