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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    No it is not. Look at the areas claimed.
    United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    China wants one on one negotiations. The others do not as they know China will exert pressure on them 1 at a time.
    China is a signatory to the Law of the Seas, the US is not.

    As seen from any of these photos, China's claim is well beyond what is in the LOS convention.


    https://www.google.ca/search?q=china...w=1600&bih=767
    The 1887 Chinese-Vietnamese Boundary convention signed between France and China after the Sino-French War said that China was the owner of the Spratly and Paracel islands.[32] China sent naval forces on inspection tours in 1902 and 1907 and placed flags and markers on the islands.

    Spratly Islands dispute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Chinese have as legitimate, if not more so claim to the islands as anybody else. This is not nearly as cut and dry as you wish. And there's certainly no compelling reason to press for hostilities over this.
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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Is there a reason why you can't answer the question?
    Too ambiguous, I already told you.
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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Too ambiguous, I already told you.
    I think I know why you can't answer.

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I think I know why you can't answer.
    I doubt it. In the mean time, China's taking care of business in the SCS and neither you or Rubio or anybody else the cons can dredge up will be doing anything about it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The US (not under Obama) would not allow such unchecked aggression. I care because it sets a bad precedence (im aware many dont care about the principle) and its negative effects on our allies.
    If Mitt Romney would have won...do you think he would get aggressive with China? Hell....he became a very wealthy executive catering to China through off shore job shifting. China is our ally.

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You don't just stop China. Gotta think that one thru and gotta really want it.
    No, you don't just stop China, just as one doesn't just stop Russia. That's why Obama's actions concerning Russia have been particularly effective without putting our troops at risk.
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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Love the false dichotomy. So the options are let China do as it wishes, or nuclear war?

    Reminds me of the lefts Iran and terrorism arguments.

    Nothing is worth fighting for-so let them take it.
    A few mostly-uninhabited islands are NOT worth risking nuclear war over...even if they do have some oil and gas underneath them.

    Funny how when the conservatives gripe that we shouldn't be the world's policeman, but when another nation acts up, well, why the heck haven't we started rattling our sabers yet?
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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The 1887 Chinese-Vietnamese Boundary convention signed between France and China after the Sino-French War said that China was the owner of the Spratly and Paracel islands.[32] China sent naval forces on inspection tours in 1902 and 1907 and placed flags and markers on the islands.

    Spratly Islands dispute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Chinese have as legitimate, if not more so claim to the islands as anybody else. This is not nearly as cut and dry as you wish. And there's certainly no compelling reason to press for hostilities over this.
    France cannot sign another countries rights way. The law is clear on what they have claim to.
    This is a resource grab by China. Also a strategic choke point for trade.
    If my post offends you, I deeply Apple-O-Jize.

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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    France cannot sign another countries rights way. The law is clear on what they have claim to.
    This is a resource grab by China. Also a strategic choke point for trade.
    I think the later is what rubs you. The former has plenty of precedence. Good luck forcing your view of this with China.
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    Re: Exclusive: China warns U.S. surveillance plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think the later is what rubs you. The former has plenty of precedence. Good luck forcing your view of this with China.
    Rubs me,yeah, using economic and soon to be military power to lock up control of sea areas they have no right to.
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