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    Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    That's absolute insanity.

    Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams - CNN.com

    Two college students say they were forced to submit to transvaginal probes as part of their classroom training to learn how to perform the medical procedure. The details are outlined in a federal lawsuit filed Thursday in Orlando against Valencia College and three instructors. It alleges that medical diagnostic students at the college were forced to submit to the examination of their sexual organs under threat of having their grades reduced or of being blacklisted by future employers. The three defendants named in the lawsuit, Maureen Bugnacki, Linda Shaheen and Barbara Ball, have not responded to CNN's requests for comment. Peer physical examination is an accepted practice in the medical field, but several recent reports cited by the U.S. National Library of Medicine mention a growing need for clear policies regarding peer physical examination at medical schools.

    The lawsuit claims that during orientation, the college "had a second year student ... (nicknamed the 'TransVag Queen') explained the Medical Diagnostic Sonography Program's faculty believed that students should undergo invasive transvaginal ultrasound procedures in order to become better sonography technicians." "Valencia positioned these transvaginal probes as voluntary, but its actual policy and practice was that they were not," according to the lawsuit. The suit also describes weekly probes for students in the program, saying they "endured these invasive probes without a modicum of privacy. Plaintiffs would disrobe in a restroom, drape themselves in towels, and traverse the sonography classroom in full view of instructors and other students."

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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    I feel bad for them really I do, but forced? If someone tells me I have to do something I don't want to do you best believe I'm taking this up with someone higher than the asshole trying to look at my vag. And if that person doesn't want to listen there is plenty of social media these days that will.
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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    The "forced" part was not a very bright on their part, only a matter of time before someone did something about it.
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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I feel bad for them really I do, but forced? If someone tells me I have to do something I don't want to do you best believe I'm taking this up with someone higher than the asshole trying to look at my vag. And if that person doesn't want to listen there is plenty of social media these days that will.
    You might be less inclined to tell them to shove off when you think your future career could be at risk.

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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    Should be interesting to see how this ends up. In my nursing courses I was assigned a bed bath partner several times. We were assigned to practice giving one another bed baths in class (not as easy as you might think). Since I was the only male in the course, typically, I was always paired with a female, giving and receiving. Do I have a case?

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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I feel bad for them really I do, but forced? If someone tells me I have to do something I don't want to do you best believe I'm taking this up with someone higher than the asshole trying to look at my vag. And if that person doesn't want to listen there is plenty of social media these days that will.
    In that case, a hands on medical career is not for you. You're also "forced" to empty bedpans and dig out bowel impactions (involves putting your finger up someone's butt and pulling out their ****).

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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    In that case, a hands on medical career is not for you. You're also "forced" to empty bedpans and dig out bowel impactions (involves putting your finger up someone's butt and pulling out their ****).

    Trust me I've long since realized that's not a career for me.
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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    medical training requires hands on experience

    you inject each other

    you give physicals

    it is all part of the intensive grind to weed out those who arent meant for this type of work

    my dad told me about a lot of the stuff they did in school as he was getting his PA degree

    i dunno....maybe the school went overboard....but i think most med students go through things like this
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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    You might be less inclined to tell them to shove off when you think your future career could be at risk.
    Maybe but I'd still try talk to someone about it first.

    I always allow medical students in whenever they ask but a whole room would be a little different.
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    Re: Florida's Valencia College sued over forced vaginal exams

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Should be interesting to see how this ends up. In my nursing courses I was assigned a bed bath partner several times. We were assigned to practice giving one another bed baths in class (not as easy as you might think). Since I was the only male in the course, typically, I was always paired with a female, giving and receiving. Do I have a case?

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