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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    No you don't. but, if you wish to present yourself as unable to grasp basic comprehension in retort to your point, I shall not stop you, sir.
    Thank you. Will you kindly rephrase yourself so that I might understand your point. Unless you don't really want a response from me.
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    10 minutes means the reaction to first strike leaves no time for confirmation. Technical or human failure become fatal, because the retaliation must be instantaneous.
    Do you think the Iranians can manage to get any thoughts thru their dense grey matter.....on those Israeli subs that they can't do much of anything, about.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Iran isn't like other countries.....they lie more, they deceive more, and they falsify information more than any others out there. So mostly anything they say, can't be taken for any grain of salt.

    So the language should be specific as to which Bases they will open up and let inspectors in and they will do so without opening their Big mouths.....time for the Sheep to roll over and know their place on the very short food chain they are on.

    As most of the Planet won't miss any of them. They do need to start thinking about that fact!
    To the bolded. Oh dear lord, never mind MMC.
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Any country that has nuclear activity is capable of constructing dirty bombs, as such bombs require nothing more than their containing some radioactive waste. Dirty bombs have a localized impact in contrast to full-fledged nuclear weapons. The goal is to prevent Iran from gaining the capability to weaponize nuclear fission (and later fusion).


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    At present, I favor allowing the diplomatic process to reach its conclusion at the end of June. If Iran rejects an appropriate verification mechanism, the P5+1 should terminate the talks and re-impose the sanctions that had been lifted. Afterward, additional sanctions could be designed and imposed. Then, further non-military and/or possibly military measures would depend on developments.
    I agree with most of what you say. Where I would qualify such agreement is, where you say
    - That dirty bombs do not constitute a casus belli, when combined with targetable ballistic missiles. This is especially true, where the IAEA suspects that the country has a weapons program.
    - The intransparency is enough severe to limit our capability of knowing how close the country is. As it will not allow the inspectors to do the job, we must presume they are very close to having a deliverable weapon and possibly even instigated the relaxation of the sanctions to gain the time and resources for the final effort. We would not know and that cannot be acceptable.
    - As the use of the weapon is not the real danger here, but the proliferation thereafter making MAD inoperable. MAD is not an answer to the problem and should not be contemplated.
    - Proportionality is a fine gentlemanly concept that also becomes inoperative, when the means become limited. Or one could say that with a decline in available means, the methods justified to attain existential goals grow indefinitely. This is relevant, because we alone cannot afford an invasion and the number fortification of hardened targets is such that collateral damage would be huge.
    - And finally, I do not think that Tehran believes Obama's red lines any more than they believe in Santa.

    In the end, we are not at the point of war at this moment. But a break down of the negotiations could require destruction of their assets. And considering other developments gathering speed, it may be a good idea to demonstrate that the present system of international security is not well enough structured nor robust and general enough to maintain peace in the coming decades and that that is catastrophic for one and all.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Thank you. Will you kindly rephrase yourself so that I might understand your point. Unless you don't really want a response from me.

    Sorry, if you can't figure it out for real, it would be a chore for me to try to simplify, on the otherhand, if your playing games to avoid the obvious, I'd rather not be the goat.

    either way, I don't see the value here.


    let me ask you, why are you so desparate to support obama's bad deal with IRan?
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    To the bolded. Oh dear lord, never mind MMC.
    Such has been their record Monte.....those mopes couldn't admit to any truth if their very lives depended on it.

    When did people start believing in backstabbing, lying and no good worthless fools?

    Oh and I am being kind with the word.....fools. As another much more appropriate term could be used.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Sorry, if you can't figure it out for real, it would be a chore for me to try to simplify, on the otherhand, if your playing games to avoid the obvious, I'd rather not be the goat.

    either way, I don't see the value here.


    let me ask you, why are you so desparate to support obama's bad deal with IRan?
    I really wish you would explain yourself, I'm not trying to be coy. As to your question on Iran and Obama, there is an agreement being hammered out between Iran on the one side and Germany, France, China, Russia, the UK and the US, on the other, This is not an Iran/Obama deal.
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Such has been their record Monte.....those mopes couldn't admit to any truth if their very lives depended s
    When did people start believing in backstabbing, lying and no good worthless fools?

    Oh and I am being kind with the word.....fools. As another much more appropriate term could be used.
    Same rhetoric was promoted about Iraq when it was their turn to meet US "justice"!!!!
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I really wish you would explain yourself, I'm not trying to be coy. As to your question on Iran and Obama, there is an agreement being hammered out between Iran on the one side and Germany, France, China, Russia, the UK and the US, on the other, This is not an Iran/Obama deal.


    Of course it is, He's the one pushing it at all costs, the left, the liberals, are blindly behind it no matter what Iran says. the notion that it's ok to skip the scientists and military installations is stupid, and simply follows a path of foreign blunders this president has engaged in.

    If this deal was a "success", you all would be proclaiming it was all Obama, who you trying to fool.


    Just like the arab spring you all touted as an obama success... (how did that work out for ya?)
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The IAEA was dismissed, ordered out of Iraq the day before the US hostilities commenced in Iraq, But suddenly, the IAEA has relevancy. I'd still like to see you respond to post 40.
    If an organization that is know for restraint is forceful, I tend to believe it more than when it is full of hums and haws.

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