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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So you are asserting that Iran has mixed in their nuclear program with all of their military infrastructure?


    No you were asserting that Iran would have to open up their defensive infrastructure to the world.....which would hardly be the case. As that reason I came back with put all of that into perspective.

    As all know Iran doesn't have Nukes nor reactors at all of their military bases. So its like I said.....they only need to open the door to the ones where they are doing the cooking in.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No you were asserting that Iran would have to open up their defensive infrastructure to the world.....which would hardly be the case. As that reason I came back with put all of that into perspective.

    As all know Iran doesn't have Nukes nor reactors at all of their military bases. So its like I said.....they only need to open the door to the ones where they are doing the cooking in.
    That's because language has been used concerning military installations "suspected" of working on nuclear weapons!! That language isn't going to fly, and no country would accept it, subjective as it is.
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You've got that bit narrowed to nothing.
    Well, it will be difficult to inspect, where you are prevented to inspect. Not good for trust, not good for confidence. Can't well know, what's behind a closed door.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Things that make you go hmmmm.



    Iran Missile Launch Leaves Neighbors With Four-Minute Reaction Time.....

    Saudi Arabia purchased $2 billion worth of Patriots last month and Qatar signed a $2.4 billion deal for interceptors in December. As Patriot orders have come in from the Middle East and elsewhere, Raytheon has funded upgrade and improvement projects for the missile.

    UAE also has purchased the THAAD interceptors, built by Lockheed Martin, and are supposed to get them by the end of the year. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are also reportedly interested in THAAD.

    The U.S. has 10 Patriot batteries deployed in the region, including one in Jordan to defend against a possible missile attack from Syria. But while the Gulf States have purchases top-end missile interceptors, they do not have the sophisticated radars and satellites that the Pentagon uses to track ballistic missiles.....snip~


    Iran Missile Launch Leaves Neighbors With Four-Minute Reaction Time - Matt Vespa
    10 minutes means the reaction to first strike leaves no time for confirmation. Technical or human failure become fatal, because the retaliation must be instantaneous.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    No...
    How will you guarantee there is no weapons development or existent weaponry, if you cannot look? The Security Council had demanded the inspectors be able to do the job. If they can there need be no war.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Well, it will be difficult to inspect, where you are prevented to inspect. Not good for trust, not good for confidence. Can't well know, what's behind a closed door.
    Do you have the objectivity to be able to see the dilemma in this?
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Not necessarily. It increases prospects of a continuation of sanctions and perhaps even a stiffening of sanctions.
    Do you think that that is enough? We must live with a Muslim equivalent of North Korea in the Gulf? That will make it interesting, indeed. Waiting for mutual proliferation in the region and almost certainly the use of nukes over short or long.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Do you think that that is enough? We must live with a Muslim equivalent of North Korea in the Gulf? That will make it interesting, indeed. Waiting for mutual proliferation in the region and almost certainly the use of nukes over short or long.
    I'm not sure if it will be enough. Continued or strengthened sanctions would likely be the starting point should no reasonable agreement be reached. Of course, additional measures, including possible military ones, might be possible should Iran move closer to a nuclear breakout. Neither the U.S. nor Israel have ruled out military measures in such circumstances, but for now the emphasis is on the diplomatic process.

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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    How will you guarantee there is no weapons development or existent weaponry, if you cannot look? The Security Council had demanded the inspectors be able to do the job. If they can there need be no war.
    And how is a sovereign nation, that surely has a right to defend itself, to do so effectively if it has no secrets. Said another way, how is it that Iran (any nation) to retain legitimate secrets of defense that wouldn't be violations of NPT or any other treaties or aspects of international law, do so if a body (P-5+1, UN) can demand that an impartial (wink wink, nod nod) agency (IAEA) inspect an installation on the "suspicion" that they are in violation of something?
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    Re: Iran's leader rejects foreign access to military sites, scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Do you think that that is enough? We must live with a Muslim equivalent of North Korea in the Gulf? That will make it interesting, indeed. Waiting for mutual proliferation in the region and almost certainly the use of nukes over short or long.
    I'm sorry, you can find plenty to legitimately criticize Iran on without stooping to such hyperbole. Do you realize that women can vote in Iran. Isn't our ally across the puddle from Iran just now thinking about giving women similar rights?
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