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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    why not make the environment I am working in more hospitable for me to work in? why make it a hostile business environment in the first place?

    I am sure that the people losing their jobs won't be happy at 15 bucks an hour.
    The area is as hospitable as it's going to get. You see, the shoe is on the other foot now and you guys don't like it - so you want government to do something about it... Moreover, minimum wage workers rarely work 40 hours a week at one job: they will have two or more, AND a lot of Temp agencies are staffing businesses with minimum wage workers, and those "temps", even though they work 40 hours a week get no benefits...

    So the reality is, you're fear mongering.
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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you didn't catch him. he could hack the city before the city put unrealistic wages in place. which is the whole point.
    something you fail to grasp.
    $50 a square foot for a retail lease is his problem. The outer lying areas charge $4-$5 a square foot.

    You do the math.
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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Dude - you're caught - face it. You can't hack The City. Move to Albany 'er somethin. Mountain View maybe.
    LOL. You're savvy business acumen is just too much for me.
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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    So why do we "need" a $15 an hour minimum wage? Just a couple of years ago it was normal to work 40+ hours a week. Then came Obamacare and redefined the full time work week as 30 hours. Basically the government told employers to either cut their employees to 30 hours or less or face huge fines in the form of being forced to pay for their health insurance. Not the way most people perceive it, but that is essentially what happened. Again, this from a government that only pretends to care about debt and deficits, they could have simply paid for everyone to be insured, but again that is not the purpose.

    So the employers (many of them) complied and cut hours. then people who used to work 40+ hours were working less than 30 but they still had the same bills to pay. Higher bills actually, because health insurance costs went up too. So rather than get a second job, which would be difficult for many because of secondary commute times and scheduling, they turned to the same government that f#$%@d it all up to fix it, and the proposal was to once again lie to the low earners and blame the employers. Because that is how this administration works.

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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The area is as hospitable as it's going to get. You see, the shoe is on the other foot now and you guys don't like it - so you want government to do something about it... Moreover, minimum wage workers rarely work 40 hours a week at one job: they will have two or more, AND a lot of Temp agencies are staffing businesses with minimum wage workers, and those "temps", even though they work 40 hours a week get no benefits...

    So the reality is, you're fear mongering.
    this makes 0 sense.

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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    $50 a square foot for a retail lease is his problem. The outer lying areas charge $4-$5 a square foot.

    You do the math.
    yet the people buying my stuff are in the outer lying area's they are were I am at.
    they won't travel to those area's which means I lose my business.

    I have what you say makes no sense.

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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    AFter looking at their LM-2, I think the SEIU can afford to buy a few of these franchises and show us all how it's done. They will never, ever do that because their objective isn't increasing worker's wages or social justice - it's political power. Otherwise, they'd put their money where their mouth is.

    that probably would have been a much better use of their money, than spending it on attacking mcdonalds corp

    that 80m is gone.....never to be seen again

    when it could have been used to buy a number of businesses, put their practices into actual working conditions, and show everyone else how it is done

    but....no.....that actually makes sense

    we cant have that....
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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    this is not true. if they could simply fire up the press and pay what they owe then why not just print 16 trillion dollars an pay off the debt?
    this would cause economic destruction. the dollar would be near worthless and no one would trade or loan you money. that is exactly why
    we don't do what you just said we do.
    Now you're on it. That is what is happening. China and Russia are abandoning the dollar as a world currency. And you are correct, if they did it all at once it would crash the dollar. But it is going to happen anyway.

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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    this makes 0 sense.
    It's just over your head. I can't do anything about that. Try reading it again and thinking on it a bit and then get back to me.
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    Re: Los Angeles Raises Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    As I said earlier, for every one that leaves, ten more are ready to start. If you can't afford to do business in a given market, then go to one that you can do business in.

    really....ten new upstarts for every one that closes?

    if that really was the case, the LA basin unemployment rate would be at 2-3% tops

    last i saw...it was over 8%

    and that doesnt include the huge undocumented population there
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