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    Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    If they'd toss out all the illegal aliens collecting benefits there'd be money for poor CITIZENS.


    Facing $1 Billion Deficit, Arizona Sharply Limits Welfare - US News

    may 18 2015
    PHOENIX (AP) — Facing a $1 billion budget deficit, Arizona's Republican-led Legislature has reduced the lifetime limit for welfare recipients to the shortest window in the nation.

    Low-income families on welfare will now have their benefits cut off after just 12 months.

    As a result, the Arizona Department of Economic Security will drop at least 1,600 families — including more than 2,700 children — from the state's federally funded welfare program on July 1, 2016.

    The cuts of at least $4 million reflect a prevailing mood among the lawmakers in control in Arizona that welfare, Medicaid and other public assistance programs are crutches that keep the poor from getting back on their feet and achieving their potential

    Most states impose a five-year limit on welfare benefits. Thirteen states limit it to two years or less, and Texas has a tiered time limit that can be as little as 12 months but allows children to continue to receive funding even after the parents have been cut, welfare policy analyst Liz Schott said.

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by TextDriversKill View Post
    If they'd toss out all the illegal aliens collecting benefits there'd be money for poor CITIZENS.
    No one should get handouts.

    Legal or not.

    Handouts are moronic.
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    No one should get handouts.

    Legal or not.

    Handouts are moronic.
    How far do you take that? Should all forms of welfare be stopped? Should we end social security?

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    How far do you take that? Should all welfare of any kind be stopped? Should we end social security?
    Social security is ending itself. My generation will most likely not get **** out of it.

    Even if we were going to get it though... Yes, social security could and should go. The idea is that people should be responsible and save. If they don't save, they reap what they sow and become beggars.
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Social security is ending itself. My generation will most likely not get **** out of it.

    Even if we were going to get it though... Yes, social security could and should go. The idea is that people should be responsible and save. If they don't save, they reap what they sow and become beggars.
    Ending social security would create a retirement crisis.

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Ending social security would create a retirement crisis.
    The baby boomers shouldn't have been such morons in their twenties.

    Hell, my own grandma retired in her sixties but expects my generation and my parents generation to work until their seventies and beyond.

    Welfare of any kind gives people the incentive to be lazy, no matter how slight.

    Welfare is bad. I will not change my mind on that. The less welfare the better. It's not like there were huge crises every day before FDR's presidency.
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Ending social security would create a retirement crisis.
    Will create a retirement crises. The correct term is will. Every person retiring today is currently scheduled to outlive their benefits, but Baby Boomers haven't saved crap.
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    The baby boomers shouldn't have been such morons in their twenties.

    Hell, my own grandma retired in her sixties but expects my generation and my parents generation to work until their seventies and beyond.

    Welfare of any kind gives people the incentive to be lazy, no matter how slight.

    Welfare is bad. I will not change my mind on that. The less welfare the better. It's not like there were huge crises every day before FDR's presidency.
    My Mother was collecting SNAP from the time I was 5 to 8. Without it, I wouldn't have eaten. Your opinion is black and white, extreme and unrealistic.
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    No one should get handouts.

    Legal or not.

    Handouts are moronic.
    Here's the real story on your handouts.

    Fossil fuels subsidised by $10m a minute, says IMF | Environment | The Guardian

    "Fossil fuel companies are benefitting from global subsidies of $5.3tn (£3.4tn) a year, equivalent to $10m a minute every day, according to a startling new estimate by the International Monetary Fund.

    The IMF calls the revelation “shocking” and says the figure is an “extremely robust” estimate of the true cost of fossil fuels. The $5.3tn subsidy estimated for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments."

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    No one should get handouts.

    Legal or not.

    Handouts are moronic.
    Here's the real story on your handouts.

    Fossil fuels subsidised by $10m a minute, says IMF | Environment | The Guardian

    "Fossil fuel companies are benefitting from global subsidies of $5.3tn (£3.4tn) a year, equivalent to $10m a minute every day, according to a startling new estimate by the International Monetary Fund.

    The IMF calls the revelation “shocking” and says the figure is an “extremely robust” estimate of the true cost of fossil fuels. The $5.3tn subsidy estimated for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments."

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