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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

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    Social safety nets should be limited. A reliance on social safety nets (what we have today) is harmful.
    There are cases where it is needed and well justified
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

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    There are cases where it is needed and well justified
    I think the only real concession I could make is social security. However, social security would need massive reforming.

    The only good thing about social safety nets is that they encourage people to spend. However, they can and definitely do in many, if not most cases, breed laziness.
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    I think the only real concession I could make is social security. However, social security would need massive reforming.

    The only good thing about social safety nets is that they encourage people to spend. However, they can and definitely do in many, if not most cases, breed laziness.
    How do you feel about receiving disability? SSI. Ya think that should be tossed out too?
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    I think the only real concession I could make is social security. However, social security would need massive reforming.

    The only good thing about social safety nets is that they encourage people to spend. However, they can and definitely do in many, if not most cases, breed laziness.
    Let them starve, go hungry, not my type of society. If that is what you believe well I do feel for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by TextDriversKill View Post
    If they'd toss out all the illegal aliens collecting benefits there'd be money for poor CITIZENS.
    Well, number one, it won;t last as legislation, and secondly - [i]the illegals come for the job market[i]. There needs to be a moratorium on jobs for those people: citizens first.
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    How do you feel about receiving disability? SSI. Ya think that should be tossed out too?
    Disability depends.

    The only true grey area is what happens to people who are born with a disability. For that I have no answer.
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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    False. Advocating for the destruction of welfare cannot be inherently fascist since fascism is built upon huge government control and weakening welfare is built upon slashing government control.
    It does not surprise me in the least that you have no clue as to how the NAZI ideology viewed welfare (the view, in a nutshell, was that the lower classes should be exposed to the most extreme forms of social Darwinism, often with state sponsored culling of that herd).

    Further, your "weakening govt control" is false presentation, it is actually just an argument for less govt spending.
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    "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    I think the only real concession I could make is social security. However, social security would need massive reforming.

    The only good thing about social safety nets is that they encourage people to spend. However, they can and definitely do in many, if not most cases, breed laziness.
    Ah, the "soup kitchens cause depressions" argument. How quaint.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumpf
    "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Arizona Makes Painful Deficit Cuts, Including Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Disability depends.

    The only true grey area is what happens to people who are born with a disability. For that I have no answer.
    But I am sure you have some ideas....
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumpf
    "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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