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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Druggies already brew meth in basement "labs", so making morphine in a similar way isn't going to change much of anything. If people want to kill themselves with drugs, there isn't a lot the government can do to stop it.
    If I read the OP correctly it makes the process similar to making beer. I guess one of the appeals is that very few people actually blow themselves up making beer.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    C'mon. People in terrible pain have NO obstacles getting pain meds. The obstacles come when/if they start selling them.

    Yes, doctors are leery of prescribing opiates to patients when there isn't a compelling need, but they have no problem putting those with genuine need on pain management.
    Opiates used for chronic pain management cause an increase in non-opiate pain receptors, effectively causing people to develop more pain over time that will not improve with increased opiate dosages. So not only do you have more tolerance, requiring increased doses of the opiate, but you have worsening of the condition as a result. There is very little legitimate use for opiates outside of palliative care for terminal cases, in which these long term risks are moot.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If I read the OP correctly it makes the process similar to making beer. I guess one of the appeals is that very people actually blow themselves up making beer.
    Good point. Making meth is a lot more dangerous, so if the druggies actually care about the risk of blowing up their (probably rented anyway) apartment, then they can switch to a safer alternative.

    Then, all they have to worry about will be getting caught by the narcs, or being shot by a rival drug dealer.
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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Good point. Making meth is a lot more dangerous, so if the druggies actually care about the risk of blowing up their (probably rented anyway) apartment, then they can switch to a safer alternative.

    Then, all they have to worry about will be getting caught by the narcs, or being shot by a rival drug dealer.
    In any case brewing supply stores are probably going to get a lot more regulated in the future.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    In any case brewing supply stores are probably going to get a lot more regulated in the future.
    No doubt. The druggies will have to find a way to make their own.
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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There are a thousand and one pharmacies in just about every developed locale. If you're out in the sticks you can have them delivered for crying out loud.

    Btw, from the article:


    That last part is bull**** of course. Want to bet those other "pain patients" she knows aren't prescribed?

    The woman at the heart of the article ASKED to be put on morphine because the oxy black market was getting ugly, what sense does that make?
    i don't think anyone would seriously argue that it's a piece of cake to get these pain pills. i suppose some of it depends on your state, but they are pretty tightly controlled at the federal level, too.

    either way, it doesn't matter how tightly they control access to an opiate producing yeast. you'd only need to sneak out a microscopic amount, and someone almost certainly will.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    In any case brewing supply stores are probably going to get a lot more regulated in the future.
    I don't know how. It can be done with very, VERY, generic items. Sure, I have several thousand dollars in fancy brewing gear but all I really NEED are some buckets and cooking pots. The only specialized things you really need are the grains and the yeast. The grains don't apply to the "morphine brewing" so the only thing they can crack down on is the strain of yeast. And that would be very difficult. They would have to do DNA testing to distinguish it from all the other types of yeast out there people use for brewing or baking.

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