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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think your permanent poppy field might attract some attention.
    Funny thing about that, turns out not so much. Up the road from my brother in our home town, lady has been growing poppies in her yard for as long as we've been alive. The sheriff visited her the other day and helped her remove them. Turns out they were opium poppies. No one tripped to the fact for decades.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think your permanent poppy field might attract some attention.
    I think so too.

    About 20 years ago the FBI went to visit my 70 some year old aunt who lived in a very rural area where she had a beautiful
    Poppy garden planted near the hi way. She told the agents she had that garden over 20 years and enjoyed the Poppy garden because of the beautiful colors. They made her get rid it anyway.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Funny thing about that, turns out not so much. Up the road from my brother in our home town, lady has been growing poppies in her yard for as long as we've been alive. The sheriff visited her the other day and helped her remove them. Turns out they were opium poppies. No one tripped to the fact for decades.
    The sheriff apparently had reason to believe the lady wasn't cultivating them for her lab in the basement. Fact, though, is nobody is caught. Until they are.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I think so too.

    About 20 years the FBI went to visit my 70 some year old aunt who lived in a very rural area where she had a beautiful
    Poppy garden planted near the hi way. She told the agents she had that garden over 20 years and enjoyed the Poppy garden because of the beautiful colors. They made her get rid it anyway.
    I feel safer already. There are actually quite a few legal plants that grow illicit substances. I'm curious when the ban hammer is going to fall on a huge swath of ornamental cactus.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    many have to jump through all kinds of hoops and deal with bull****.

    Pill mill fallout: Legitimate patients have trouble getting pain meds - Naples Daily News

    Walgreens' "secret checklist" reveals controversial new policy - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

    no one who has legitimate chronic pain issues should have to go without meds.
    There are a thousand and one pharmacies in just about every developed locale. If you're out in the sticks you can have them delivered for crying out loud.

    Btw, from the article:
    Because she is permanently disabled and on Medicare, she found salvation through a mail order company which now delivers her prescription to her home. She knows other pain patients who aren’t on disability and can’t access the same solution.
    That last part is bull**** of course. Want to bet those other "pain patients" she knows aren't prescribed?

    The woman at the heart of the article ASKED to be put on morphine because the oxy black market was getting ugly, what sense does that make?

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The sheriff apparently had reason to believe the lady wasn't cultivating them for her lab in the basement. Fact, though, is nobody is caught. Until they are.
    We knew she wasn't. As I said, my family had been living down the road from her for well over 60 years now. The Sheriff is a good young man and explained it to her gently.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Druggies already brew meth in basement "labs", so making morphine in a similar way isn't going to change much of anything. If people want to kill themselves with drugs, there isn't a lot the government can do to stop it.
    Its an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated. Donald Trump



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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    We knew she wasn't. As I said, my family had been living down the road from her for well over 60 years now. The Sheriff is a good young man and explained it to her gently.
    My point wasn't whether or not she was cultivating the poppies for morphine, but that the poppies she grew even for obviously ornamental reasons attracted attention just the same.

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post

    The woman at the heart of the article ASKED to be put on morphine because the oxy black market was getting ugly, what sense does that make?
    Medical morphine may be much safer than oxy, easier on your liver.
    I am not sure if one is more addictive than the other, but I have heard the chronic pain users
    have a easier time with the morphine. (and it is cheap)

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    Re: 'Home-brewed morphine' made possible

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Is this really cheaper and/or easier than growing the poppies and extracting? Opium poppies are very easy to grow.
    Assuming it really can be done using beer brewing techniques, then yes it would be MUCH easier. From the OP it just sounds like the trick is in having the right strain of yeast. And once that strain somehow finds its way into the hands of the right/wrong person, well, cultivating yeast is also very easy. Once you get your hands on some of the yeast you will never have to buy it again, if you know what you are doing.

    Now, all of that is assuming the yeast actually can produce morphine.

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