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    White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Why allowed them to take the city in the first place?

    Critics of the Obama administration were quick to seize on the fall of Ramadi as a sign that the U.S. lacks a coherent strategy to defeat ISIS.
    On Sunday, Rep. Michael MCaul, the Homeland Security Committee chairman, said on Fox TV that "in no way, shape or form are we winning" in Iraq.
    White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS | Military.com

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    However, reporters based in Iraq on Sunday said that the ISF had fled Ramadi, reportedly leaving their wounded behind and abandoning equipment in a scene similar to last summer when ISIS fighters swept into the northwestern city of Mosul against little resistance.

    I thought these boys are US trained and using US equipment. They sure do drop and run a lot.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Why allowed them to take the city in the first place?



    White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS | Military.com
    Because we aren't the world's police?
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Because we aren't the world's police?
    LOL if you pretend to be the world's police at least shoot to kill like in your own backyard.

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    LOL if you pretend to be the world's police at least shoot to kill like in your own backyard.
    I guess I don't have such imperialistic desires as do our more hawkish conservatives of today.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I guess I don't have such imperialistic desires as do our more hawkish conservatives of today.
    We can argue all day whether or not the American invasion of Iraq was justified and moral/immoral, but that isn't really the point. Our withdrawal likely exacerbated the speed in which fundamentalists were able to gain a foothold in that country. We had been there for years, spent millions if not billions rebuilding the country, had a number of Americans' blood spilled, and now it's crumbling before us. We have a large, capable force of Muslim militants spreading like a plague across the Middle East, capturing territory and slaughtering non-believers left and right. They are radicalizing Westerners - more specifically, impressionable millennials - are well funded and are brutal. Was the withdrawal worth the possible consequences that may follow?

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Trojan View Post
    We can argue all day whether or not the American invasion of Iraq was justified and moral/immoral, but that isn't really the point. Our withdrawal likely exacerbated the speed in which fundamentalists were able to gain a foothold in that country. We had been there for years, spent millions if not billions rebuilding the country, had a number of Americans' blood spilled, and now it's crumbling before us. We have a large, capable force of Muslim militants spreading like a plague across the Middle East, capturing territory and slaughtering non-believers left and right. They are radicalizing Westerners - more specifically, impressionable millennials - are well funded and are brutal. Was the withdrawal worth the possible consequences that may follow?
    I see. It's blame Obama time is it. lol

    so you want to argue about the past policies of the current administration so long as it doesn't spill over into the discussing the past president's policies.

    I also noticed you didn't have an answer of your own to deal with it now... just whine about how we shouldn't have reduced troop levels.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Trojan View Post
    We can argue all day whether or not the American invasion of Iraq was justified and moral/immoral, but that isn't really the point. Our withdrawal likely exacerbated the speed in which fundamentalists were able to gain a foothold in that country. We had been there for years, spent millions if not billions rebuilding the country, had a number of Americans' blood spilled, and now it's crumbling before us. We have a large, capable force of Muslim militants spreading like a plague across the Middle East, capturing territory and slaughtering non-believers left and right. They are radicalizing Westerners - more specifically, impressionable millennials - are well funded and are brutal. Was the withdrawal worth the possible consequences that may follow?
    According to the Bush era 2006 NIE, a consensus amongst the intelligence community agencies concluded that the invasion of Iraq caused an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe. Argue with that all you wish.

    Published: September 24, 2006
    WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 — A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/wo...pagewanted=all
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I guess I don't have such imperialistic desires as do our more hawkish conservatives of today.
    "Imperialistic desires?" Mr. Obama's communist friend Frank Marshall Davis might have used you for the Star, the red piece of fish wrap he used to edit in Chicago. Throw in some stock phrases like "fascist lackeys," and "workers' cadres," and "capitalist running dogs," and you'd have been right there. If there is one power in the history of the world that is noteworthy for its lack of imperial ambitions, it is the United States. They have been glaringly absent. This country had 200 atom bombs before anyone else had even one--if Americans had really wanted an empire, the whole world was there for the taking.

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    Re: White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    "Imperialistic desires?" Mr. Obama's communist friend Frank Marshall Davis might have used you for the Star, the red piece of fish wrap he used to edit in Chicago. Throw in some stock phrases like "fascist lackeys," and "workers' cadres," and "capitalist running dogs," and you'd have been right there. If there is one power in the history of the world that is noteworthy for its lack of imperial ambitions, it is the United States. They have been glaringly absent. This country had 200 atom bombs before anyone else had even one--if Americans had really wanted an empire, the whole world was there for the taking.
    And at present, we live in a US dominated uni-polar world.
    im·pe·ri·al·ism
    imˈpirēəˌlizəm/
    noun
    a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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