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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I personally know about ten kids who are being raised in homes with same sex parents. All are happy, reasonably mature for their age, social, and otherwise very well adjusted. Not every kid from same sex homes will be so fortunate, mind you, but not every kid from opposite sex homes will be so well adjusted either (for proof, visit your local walmart).

    It logically cannot be considered child abuse if children are being raised successfully and, as I mentioned, they are. It cannot automatically be considered abuse because successfully raised children do exist, including my own (my ex wife and her girlfriend). In fact, the biggest issue I've seen among these families, is in one, the parents are a little too lenient with discipline in my opinion (the kids are a bit too willful), but that is still far from abuse.

    I was abused growing up, I know exactly what it is like to be beaten, neglected, and manipulated. Please do not use such dire circumstances so lazily going forward.
    IMO being an orphan is hard enough without having to explain to the other children that your adoptive mommy use to be a dude.

    So putting a child into that environment, IMO, would be a form of mental abuse.
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Sounds good to me. Is there a rational reason to not support this?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2225814

    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand announced a bill Sunday that would remove legal barriers to adoption by lesbian, gay and transgender parents. Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) said she will introduce legislation this week that would prohibit discrimination against adoptive parents. The Every Child Deserves a Family Act would prohibit any entity that receives federal funds from discriminating against adoptive or foster parents based on sexual orientation, gender identity or marital status.
    Perhaps a rational reason would be that we are supposed to be a nation of fifty states. One size does not fit all. So if people in a state agree with the senator, then they have every right to pass such legislation. If however the voters of a state do not agree it should not be pushed down their throats.

    It could be we are at the point where we should hold a referendum about abolishing the states.

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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Why do you believe that?
    Because it's not what God had in mind.

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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Sounds good to me. Is there a rational reason to not support this?
    havent read the bill but as long as the bill is only removing discrimination based on sexual orientation, no . . . . . theres no logical reason to not support the bill

    Its probably not needed because equal rights is coming one way or another but I support it if thats what its about.

    Kids need sound loving homes and sexual orientation is not a logical reason to deny that.
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Because it's not what God had in mind.

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    I think subjecting children to a God I don't believe in is a form of child abuse; that doesn't mean the law should see it that way.

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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IMO being an orphan is hard enough without having to explain to the other children that your adoptive mommy use to be a dude.

    So putting a child into that environment, IMO, would be a form of mental abuse.
    You clearly don't know what is being discussed here.


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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Sounds good to me. Is there a rational reason to not support this?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2225814

    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand announced a bill Sunday that would remove legal barriers to adoption by lesbian, gay and transgender parents. Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) said she will introduce legislation this week that would prohibit discrimination against adoptive parents. The Every Child Deserves a Family Act would prohibit any entity that receives federal funds from discriminating against adoptive or foster parents based on sexual orientation, gender identity or marital status.
    Umm, wanna explain to me Ms. Gillibrand how exactly sending kids to single parent homes is good for them? While you're at it, tell me how sending kids to transgender homes is good for them.. What is the UPSIDE to this compared to oh I dunno, keeping it as the model that kids should have an opportunity for both a mother and a father that want them.. If it ain't broke comes to mind.

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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Umm, wanna explain to me Ms. Gillibrand how exactly sending kids to single parent homes is good for them? While you're at it, tell me how sending kids to transgender homes is good for them.. What is the UPSIDE to this compared to oh I dunno, keeping it as the model that kids should have an opportunity for both a mother and a father that want them.. If it ain't broke comes to mind.

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    It is broke; that's the problem. Foster care is absolutely horrible for children. Any financially stable parent(s) that would like to care for a child will be a better alternative.
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    If they don't go to normal [every child needs a mother and father] people's homes, it should be classified as child abuse IMHO.
    That's not a humble opinion at all.
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    It is broke; that's the problem. Foster care is absolutely horrible for children. Any financially stable parent(s) that wants to care for a child will be a better alternative.
    exactly common sense where people choose to run from it.

    Sexual orientation or being a single parent ALONE is no reason to be disqualified . . . . thats just asinine
    there are already standards set by MEDICAL professionals that are used to determine a healthy home . . . .the rest of the made up bigoted nonsense needs to go away.
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