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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

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    I appreciate that post but do not expect anything from WCH. His worldview is very twisted and he isolates himself with only like minded people so he is not faced with situations that might force him to think otherwise.
    I always assume that most people ultimately are governed by their conscience and that if exposed to the reality of a situation, their conscience will guide them (assuming they have one).
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You don't have a clue what goes on behind closed doors in any home. At least with adoption, you have to submit to background checks and home studies before you adopt and follow up visits afterwards.

    Seriously, why do you have such hate in your heart? You seem to be a religious person. When you pray, is this where you believe God is leading you? If there is a God, do you honestly think he would rather children grow up without a family rather than going to a same sex couple?

    We have 3 kids, one biological son and two adopted daughters. Both times we adopted, we adopted special needs from China. In both cases when we adopted, when we got our daughters they were malnourished. In fact, our oldest daughter was so emaciated and malnourished that I was buying her ice cream 3 times a day for the first 2 weeks we had her while we were still there in China so I could get some weight on her. They both had intestinal parasites, the oldest had ear infections in both ears so bad her ear drums had ruptured. Neither of them were getting any education. Our oldest was 9 when we adopted her and yet had no education at all. That was their life in a Chinese orphanage. Had they spent their entire childhood there, upon growing up they would have had little chance at life as no one over there hires uneducated orphans, or marries them, and they sure don't if they are special needs as well.

    So when I think about how few families choose to adopt, I think that any family that chooses to adopt, regardless of whether its a traditional family or not, should be able to adopt if they meet the financial requirements, pass all the background checks, and pass their home studies. When we say to a same sex couple they cannot adopt, what we are also doing is quite possibly telling a kid that they would have adopted in some overseas orphanage that they don't get a family, they can spend their childhood uneducated, malnourished, with intestinal parasites, inadequate health care, and then when they are adults, they will have no place to go and little chance of ever finding work much less forming a family of their own.

    I am serious when I say this, you should really look at what the world is like for these kids and what same sex families are like for them if they are adopted and then make a decision.
    I understand the US adoption system sucks and it forces those wishing to adopt to look overseas but, that has nothing to do with thrusting those children into, again IMO, a lifestyle filled with abnormal and sinful behavior.
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I understand the US adoption system sucks and it forces those wishing to adopt to look overseas but, that has nothing to do with thrusting those children into, again IMO, a lifestyle filled with abnormal and sinful behavior.
    Well I thank god that the US nor the adoption system is run off of your illogical opinions
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I understand the US adoption system sucks and it forces those wishing to adopt to look overseas but, that has nothing to do with thrusting those children into, again IMO, a lifestyle filled with abnormal and sinful behavior.
    If you only want children to go to non-sinful households, then there won't be any adoptions. Basically what your are saying is that even if a kid that would have otherwise been adopted by a same sex couple ends up a prostitute as an adult, then that's still better than them having grown up with same sex parents.
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If you only want children to go to non-sinful households, then there won't be any adoptions. Basically what your are saying is that even if a kid that would have otherwise been adopted by a same sex couple ends up a prostitute as an adult, then that's still better than them having grown up with same sex parents.
    My good conscience and faith tell me that these people will not be good examples or parents.

    What the law intends is to make it where sexual orientation and gender confusion can not be used as qualifying or non-qualifying attributes. That is political correctness run a muck with no hard evidence to support it's need.

    What other depravity will be the next to qualify for adoptions?
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Absolutely. It's goes with my point. Why wouldn't a conservative support full LGBT adoption over relying on the foster program that much more?
    Because the foster system is a thing of state and local government. You have the liberal's classic weakness, you cannot seem to remember that state and local governments exist and represent the people more directly.

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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    No I said IMO it would be abusive to send them to a home of homosexuals or transgender parents. You assumed all the rest.
    Uh... no I didn't.

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    If they don't go to normal [every child needs a mother and father] people's homes, it should be classified as child abuse IMHO.
    Being an orphan isn't them going to a "normal", as you put it, people's home. So by your own words, being an orphan is child abuse. Just trying to clarify because your words are pretty straight forward it seems.
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Because the foster system is a thing of state and local government. You have the liberal's classic weakness, you cannot seem to remember that state and local governments exist and represent the people more directly.
    And that doesn't address anything. Thanks for playing clown.
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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You expect children to be mature and accept deviant lifestyles are normal?
    I expect you to be mature and stop this silly abuse nonsense.

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    Re: Sen. Kristen Gillibrand announces bill to help adoptive LGBT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Uh... no I didn't.



    Being an orphan isn't them going to a "normal", as you put it, people's home. So by your own words, being an orphan is child abuse. Just trying to clarify because your words are pretty straight forward it seems.
    You are quite confused then . How c an being an orphan be abuse?
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