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    Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS/AP) — In a victory for free speech advocates, a federal appeals court says YouTube should not have been forced to take down an anti-Muslim film that sparked violence in the Middle East and death threats to actors.

    The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued its ruling in favor of Google on Monday. The decision comes after free speech advocates urged the court to overturn a 2-1 ruling by three 9th Circuit judges. That ruling ordered YouTube to take down the video.
    Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case CBS San Francisco

    Seems like the right call to me. Anyone disagree with this?

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    100% the right call. they should obviously be allowed to take it down if they choose but unequivocally should not be forced to do so.

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

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    Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case CBS San Francisco

    Seems like the right call to me. Anyone disagree with this?
    I dont know much about copyright law so I cant comment to whether the decision was right or not.

    However calling it a victory for free speech advocates is a bit silly, if it is your work you should be able to do what you want with it.

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    100% the right call. they should obviously be allowed to take it down if they choose but unequivocally should not be forced to do so.
    You dont think the courts should be able to force youtube to take down a video at the request of the copyright holder?

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    You dont think the courts should be able to force youtube to take down a video at the request of the copyright holder?
    article said it was an actor. the lawyer argued she had a copyright claim to it but that argument obviously didn't hold up with this court.

    Actress Cindy Lee Garcia wanted “Innocence of Muslims” removed from the site after receiving death threats. Her lawyer argued she had a copyright claim to the low-budget film because she believed she was acting in a different production.

    Google, which owns YouTube, argued Garcia had no claim to the film because the filmmaker wrote the dialogue, managed the production and dubbed over her lines.

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    article said it was an actor. the lawyer argued she had a copyright claim to it but that argument obviously didn't hold up with this court.
    Right but the issue is who holds the copyright, not a free speech issue.

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Right but the issue is who holds the copyright, not a free speech issue.
    if anyone who acts in a production can declare that they want that production banned or removed from publication because they don't like the message of it, that is a free speech issue.

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    if anyone who acts in a production can declare that they want that production banned or removed from publication because they don't like the message of it, that is a free speech issue.
    thats not what was claimed, the actress claimed that she was deceived as to what the movie was and that entitled her to make a copyright claim

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    thats not what was claimed, the actress claimed that she was deceived as to what the movie was and that entitled her to make a copyright claim
    okay. if anyone who acts in a production can declare that they want that production banned or removed from publication because they claim they didn't realize what movie they were in, that is a free speech issue. pretty much anything dealing with copyrights is a free speech issue. I'm not really sure what we're arguing about here.

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    Re: Appeals Court Sides With YouTube In Anti-Muslim Film Case

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    okay. if anyone who acts in a production can declare that they want that production banned or removed from publication because they claim they didn't realize what movie they were in, that is a free speech issue. pretty much anything dealing with copyrights is a free speech issue. I'm not really sure what we're arguing about here.
    copyrights are about property rights

    and before you go all slippery slope this is a very unusual case because most movie productions are done with unions and contracts. So "anyone" who acts cant make that claim.

    this link explains it more from the legal perspective

    Deceived Actor in 'Innocence of Muslims' Likely Has Independent Interest in Movie | Bloomberg BNA

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