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    Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    My faith in humanity has been diminished somewhat.

    Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues - BBC News

    The UN has condemned the refusal of South-East Asian countries to rescue thousands of migrants adrift at sea. At least 700 Bangladeshis and Rohingya from Myanmar were rescued off Aceh last week by locals, bringing the numbers in camps there to at least 1,500. UNHCR spokeswoman Vivian Tan said the lack of rescues over the weekend was a "bad sign". Aid agencies say a grave humanitarian crisis is in train as countries in the region refuse to accept the migrants. People on the boats are believed to be severely malnourished. Survivors who have made it to shore say there have been deadly fights on board over food. Ms Tan warned that "time is running out" to help the migrants. "We were hoping that more ships would be found, and that more people would be rescued and allowed to come onto shore. Unfortunately, this didn't seem to have happened," she said.

    The Indonesian authorities have told fishermen not to help the migrants - unless their boats are sinking or they are in the water. Military spokesperson Fuad Basya said fishermen could deliver food, fuel and water to the boats, or help with repairs, but that bringing them to shore would constitute an illegal entry into Indonesia. Some fishermen in Indonesia's Aceh province had told the BBC that they were not allowed to help migrants even if they were drowning. Thousands of people - mostly Rohingya Muslims fleeing persecution and poverty in Myanmar, but also Bangladeshis looking for work - are thought to be stranded out at sea.

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    Re: Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    My faith in humanity has been diminished somewhat.

    Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues - BBC News

    The UN has condemned the refusal of South-East Asian countries to rescue thousands of migrants adrift at sea. At least 700 Bangladeshis and Rohingya from Myanmar were rescued off Aceh last week by locals, bringing the numbers in camps there to at least 1,500. UNHCR spokeswoman Vivian Tan said the lack of rescues over the weekend was a "bad sign". Aid agencies say a grave humanitarian crisis is in train as countries in the region refuse to accept the migrants. People on the boats are believed to be severely malnourished. Survivors who have made it to shore say there have been deadly fights on board over food. Ms Tan warned that "time is running out" to help the migrants. "We were hoping that more ships would be found, and that more people would be rescued and allowed to come onto shore. Unfortunately, this didn't seem to have happened," she said.

    The Indonesian authorities have told fishermen not to help the migrants - unless their boats are sinking or they are in the water. Military spokesperson Fuad Basya said fishermen could deliver food, fuel and water to the boats, or help with repairs, but that bringing them to shore would constitute an illegal entry into Indonesia. Some fishermen in Indonesia's Aceh province had told the BBC that they were not allowed to help migrants even if they were drowning. Thousands of people - mostly Rohingya Muslims fleeing persecution and poverty in Myanmar, but also Bangladeshis looking for work - are thought to be stranded out at sea.
    Over here in Europe the discussion is to use military means to stop the migrants in North Africa, where they are in danger of their lives. The argument goes that they would be even more in danger of losing life, if they were allowed to try to get here. So the people trying to help them escape war and starvation will be targeted from now on, if the EU gets its way.

    So, you see, evil is everywhere.

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    Re: Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    So, by default the receiving nations are forced to take these people on, pay their way, house them for years while their host countries refuse repatriation, all because these folks were stupid enough to climb aboard a boat of their own free will without the resources to get where they are going?

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    Re: Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Over here in Europe the discussion is to use military means to stop the migrants in North Africa, where they are in danger of their lives. The argument goes that they would be even more in danger of losing life, if they were allowed to try to get here. So the people trying to help them escape war and starvation will be targeted from now on, if the EU gets its way.

    So, you see, evil is everywhere.
    The evil there are the "people trying to help them escape war and starvation". Which is a funny way to describe those who are making bucks transporting people illegally to other countries that they know would not normally accept them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The evil there are the "people trying to help them escape war and starvation". Which is a funny way to describe those who are making bucks transporting people illegally to other countries that they know would not normally accept them.
    I had don some research on that and found that the migrants were very thankful towards those that try to help them flee from war, rape, murder and dictatorships, very much loke they were 40 years ago, when someone hepled them get out of East Germany or China. Of course, they want out. It is better than watching your children or parents slaughtered or your wife raped.

    But that is a very uncomfortable truth, if you don't want them here. So we tell it differently.

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    Re: Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I had don some research on that and found that the migrants were very thankful towards those that try to help them flee from war, rape, murder and dictatorships, very much loke they were 40 years ago, when someone hepled them get out of East Germany or China. Of course, they want out. It is better than watching your children or parents slaughtered or your wife raped.

    But that is a very uncomfortable truth, if you don't want them here. So we tell it differently.
    I'm sure they were thankful, just as I've sure what they are doing is wrong. You can argue they are doing it for the right reasons, but it doesn't change that what they are doing is invading another country because theirs is ****ed up. That should not be the responsibility of the country being invaded.

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    Re: Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm sure they were thankful, just as I've sure what they are doing is wrong. You can argue they are doing it for the right reasons, but it doesn't change that what they are doing is invading another country because theirs is ****ed up. That should not be the responsibility of the country being invaded.
    If you and your family were on the ****ty end of the stick as they are, you would be doing the same thing.
    If my post offends you, I deeply Apple-O-Jize.

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    Re: Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    If you and your family were on the ****ty end of the stick as they are, you would be doing the same thing.
    No, I wouldn't. Even if I choose to go with the brain dead option, it would still be wrong.

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    Re: Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm sure they were thankful, just as I've sure what they are doing is wrong. You can argue they are doing it for the right reasons, but it doesn't change that what they are doing is invading another country because theirs is ****ed up. That should not be the responsibility of the country being invaded.
    Let'em starve, be raped, killed, eh?


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    Re: Asia boat migrants: UN despair over lack of rescues

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, I wouldn't. Even if I choose to go with the brain dead option, it would still be wrong.
    You would rather let your family starve etc than break the law of a foreign land? You are a noble person!

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