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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Isn't that the same Angela Merkel that was outraged to find that the US was spying on her?
    She's a gem.

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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    I wish people in the United States actually cared about this stuff.

    Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying | World news | The Guardian


    The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, is coming under increasing pressure to divulge a list of targets, including the IP addresses of individual computers, that German intelligence tracked on behalf of the US National Security Agency (NSA). Critics have accused Merkel’s staff of giving the BND foreign intelligence agency the green light to help the NSA spy on European firms and officials. The scandal has strained relations between Merkel’s conservative Christian Democratic Union and its junior coalition partner, the Social Democrats, whose leader, Sigmar Gabriel, has publicly challenged her over the affair.

    Gabriel told the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag that parliament needed to see the list, which contains names, search terms and IP addresses. The government has said it must consult the US before revealing the list, whose contents are thought crucial to establishing whether the BND was at fault in helping the NSA. Gabriel, who is also Germany’s vice-chancellor, said: “Imagine if there were suspicions that the NSA had helped the BND to spy on American firms. Congress wouldn’t hesitate for a second before looking into the documents.”
    Maybe it'll spur a vote of confidence election and boot her conservative ass out of there so they can lead Europe's economic resurgence instead of oppressing the rest of Europe with her forced austerity measures.
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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    The NSA needs to be abolished with any of its operations dealing with foreign enemies going to perhaps the CIA. Any operations dealing with an American citizen including the data spying bull**** needs to be stopped.

    Make two organizations one for better logistics.
    That's kind of where I'm at. I don't want to abolish the NSA because I'm pissed at them. I just don't see the need for it when you have the CIA and the FBI in place. Its sole existence is to hide itself and its actions from the law. So just put it back in those two orgs where it belongs.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    I wish people in the United States actually cared about this stuff.

    Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying | World news | The Guardian


    The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, is coming under increasing pressure to divulge a list of targets, including the IP addresses of individual computers, that German intelligence tracked on behalf of the US National Security Agency (NSA). Critics have accused Merkel’s staff of giving the BND foreign intelligence agency the green light to help the NSA spy on European firms and officials. The scandal has strained relations between Merkel’s conservative Christian Democratic Union and its junior coalition partner, the Social Democrats, whose leader, Sigmar Gabriel, has publicly challenged her over the affair.

    Gabriel told the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag that parliament needed to see the list, which contains names, search terms and IP addresses. The government has said it must consult the US before revealing the list, whose contents are thought crucial to establishing whether the BND was at fault in helping the NSA. Gabriel, who is also Germany’s vice-chancellor, said: “Imagine if there were suspicions that the NSA had helped the BND to spy on American firms. Congress wouldn’t hesitate for a second before looking into the documents.”
    The majority of the American people have no problem with our government spying as long as it is not spying on we the American people. I think majority of people in other countries have the same view that spying is alright as long as their government is not spying on them.

    Now I am sure the average citizen would be furious if their government spied on them, allowed and or worked with another government to spy on them. I hope the Germans have enough sense to throw out Merkel and anyone else who colluded with a forign government to spy on them. The only thing that worries me about the OP story is the worry that our government may have aided and or worked with other governments in spying on the American people. This is why you don't elect globalists/internationalists to office.This is why you want nationalists in office.A globalist/internationalist will have no problem selling your country out and aiding forign governments against their own people.
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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The majority of the American people have no problem with our government spying as long as it is not spying on we the American people. I think majority of people in other countries have the same view that spying is alright as long as their government is not spying on them.

    Now I am sure the average citizen would be furious if their government spied on them, allowed and or worked with another government to spy on them. I hope the Germans have enough sense to throw out Merkel and anyone else who colluded with a forign government to spy on them. The only thing that worries me about the OP story is the worry that our government may have aided and or worked with other governments in spying on the American people. This is why you don't elect globalists/internationalists to office.This is why you want nationalists in office.A globalist/internationalist will have no problem selling your country out and aiding forign governments against their own people.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Maybe it'll spur a vote of confidence election and boot her conservative ass out of there so they can lead Europe's economic resurgence instead of oppressing the rest of Europe with her forced austerity measures.
    So the other member countries aren't responsible for their own economic health?
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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The response was that we haven't been explaining why we do things well enough and must do it better.
    Got it. But honestly...we really shouldn't bother explaining it unless we get caught.
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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Now I am sure the average citizen would be furious if their government spied on them, allowed and or worked with another government to spy on them. I hope the Germans have enough sense to throw out Merkel and anyone else who colluded with a forign government to spy on them. The only thing that worries me about the OP story is the worry that our government may have aided and or worked with other governments in spying on the American people. This is why you don't elect globalists/internationalists to office.This is why you want nationalists in office.A globalist/internationalist will have no problem selling your country out and aiding forign governments against their own people.
    but our government does spy on us, and few are outraged. I haven't seen any demonstrations demanding that the Patriot Act be abolished.
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    Re: Angela Merkel under pressure to reveal extent of German help for US spying

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Got it. But honestly...we really shouldn't bother explaining it unless we get caught.
    I tend to believe it easier to explain why one does things so that they are willing to help.

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