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Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

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TurtleDude said:
Playing the odds, a black doctor is far more likely to have benefited from affirmative action to get into medical school than whatever you are talking about but lets get back to the fact that the media doesn't care much about black on black murders since they are so common
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Murders committed by blacks and whites are about equally common, though I can't say I've ever heard anything about the problem of murderous whites.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
You truly have no idea what you're talking about, do you? "Black-on-black" violence is mentioned every single night on the news here and in most metropolitan areas. When black people "riot", it's covered nationwide far more than riots by white people (which are more common, by the way). It's amazing to me how you speak with such authority on a topic you know absolutely nothing about.
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rejected as contrary to reality.
 
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Verax said:
Murders committed by blacks and whites are about equally common, though I can't say I've ever heard anything about the problem of murderous whites.
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so if black males make up 6% of the population and commit more than HALF the murders nationally, the obvious fact is

Blacks are FAR more likely to commit murders than whites who are what 6X the population?
 
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TurtleDude said:
so if black males make up 6% of the population and commit more than HALF the murders nationally, the obvious fact is

Blacks are FAR more likely to commit murders than whites who are what 6X the population?
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You said the media doesn't care about black on black violence yet it is just as prevalent as white violence in total.

If you want to talk rate then you have to account for different social factors. You should know since you're a "criminology expert" that almost all these crimes take place in the ghetto, right? Do you think blacks that live in nice middle class or upper class neighborhoods have the same high murder rate? Of course they don't.
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

TurtleDude said:
so if black males make up 6% of the population and commit more than HALF the murders nationally, the obvious fact is

Blacks are FAR more likely to commit murders than whites who are what 6X the population?
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It's funny how you choose which statistics you want to talk about depending on which ones will make black people look worse. At first, you wanted to talk about the prevalence of crime, but when that backfired, you moved to crime rates. Now, you've moved on to comparing population percentage to murder percentage. You cherry pick statistics in order to denigrate the black population. Even further, you are more than willing to discuss how you think affirmative action creates unqualified black doctors, but you quickly changed the subject when unqualified white beneficiaries of legacy admissions were brought up. Your racism is so transparent.
 
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Verax said:
You said the media doesn't care about black on black violence yet it is just as prevalent as white violence in total.

If you want to talk rate then you have to account for different social factors. You should know since you're a "criminology expert" that almost all these crimes take place in the ghetto, right? Do you think blacks that live in nice middle class or upper class neighborhoods have the same high murder rate? Of course they don't.
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blacks of a given socioeconomic strata are far more likely to commit murders than whites in the same strata.

there are more poor (below the poverty line) whites in America than there are blacks total and that includes rich blacks, middle class blacks and poor blacks. Yet all those poor whites commit less murders than all of the blacks, poor, middle class and wealthy combined
 
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Moderator's Warning:
This thread is not about white vs black crime. Nor is it about gun control. It is about a biker gang shooting. Stick to the topic or get booted.
 
 
I wonder what the initial motivation for the animosity was? With gang bangers I can understand it. It usually originates over turf wars, over who gets to sell drugs where. It is about cold hard cash. It doesn't justify it but I get it.

I wonder what it was here. Is Sons of Anarchy more realistic than I give it credit for? Do modern day biker gangs actually have their hands in gun and drug running?

Or was it over something completely mundane?
 
From local KCEN:

Police had been made aware of growing gang activity at Twin Peaks but did not receive cooperation from the management. Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton stated that the event could have been avoided had the restaurant worked with Waco PD.

"This is one of the worst gun fights we've ever had in the city limits. They started shooting at our officers," Swanton said.

At least three people have been arrested post-shooting.

Police have declined to release the names of the gangs involved, but at least five were present. Some of the gangs were fighting as allies. Police estimate that between 150-200 gang members were involved.

...Police ask that civilians continue to avoid the area, because they believe more biker gangs are traveling to the area.

Multiple agencies, including the Texas Department of Safety and Federal Bureau of Investigation, are on scene to help with the investigation. BREAKING: Nine Dead in Shooting at Twin Peaks - kcentv.com - KCEN HD - Waco, Temple, and Killeen

From Dallas's Fox station:

Swanton said at least five rival gangs gathered at Twin Peaks for a meeting that he said focused on turf and recruitment, two areas where the groups have often clashed. Preliminary findings indicate a dispute broke out in a bathroom and then spilled into the restaurant where it escalated to include knives and firearms, he said. There were 150 to 200 gang members inside the restaurant at the time.

Police were aware of the meeting in advance, and at least 12 Waco officers in addition to state troopers were outside the restaurant, part of a national chain that features scantily clad waitresses, when the fight began. Armed bikers were shot by officers, Swanton said, adding that the actions of law enforcement prevented further deaths. It was not known if any of the nine dead were killed by police officers.

Swanton said that the restaurant's operators were also aware of the meeting in advance and would not cooperate with authorities.

"Apparently the management (of Twin Peaks) wanted them here and so we didn't have any say-so on whether they could be here or not," Swanton said. 9 dead, 18 injured in Waco biker gang shooting - Fox4News.com | Dallas-Fort Worth News, Weather, Sports
 
BrewerBob said:
Do modern day biker gangs actually have their hands in gun and drug running?
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-Mexican drug cartels use Biker gangs, Mexican gangs and black gangs in the US to distribute their drugs. Biker gangs are the most used method as they are basically a weaponized mobile illegal pharmacy and basically every modern drug user knows this hence US biker gangs are Mexican drug cartels main distributor. They have been for several decades now.
 
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TurtleDude said:
Playing the odds, a black doctor is far more likely to have benefited from affirmative action to get into medical school than whatever you are talking about
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That's one of the big disservices of affirmative action. Hurts those that have truly succeeded without some type of quota system.
 
nota bene said:
There were 150 to 200 gang members inside the restaurant at the time.
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I am definitely just putting my dinner in the doggie bag and leaving a nice tip.
 
Am I the only one who thinks this is a little cool - like an old west shoot out (that's presuming only those involved were the ones who got their asses shot)?
 
X Factor said:
Am I the only one who thinks this is a little cool - like an old west shoot out (that's presuming only those involved were the ones who got their asses shot)?
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say…when?
 
X Factor said:
Say what?
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Not a fan of Tombstone are you? you were mentioning Old west shootouts



somehow I don't think bikers shooting bikers were quite so organized
 
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Verax said:
You said the media doesn't care about black on black violence yet it is just as prevalent as white violence in total.

If you want to talk rate then you have to account for different social factors. You should know since you're a "criminology expert" that almost all these crimes take place in the ghetto, right? Do you think blacks that live in nice middle class or upper class neighborhoods have the same high murder rate? Of course they don't.
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Please explain why as you suggest most blacks mostly live in the ghetto.
 
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Gee is this Obama's fault too, LOL:lamo, hey WHAT ABOUT WHITE ON WHITE CRIME??????, cmon you NEO CONS here on this site are always bringing up detroit and Chicago???

All i see sitting around the crime scene are a bunch of fat stupid looking white goons..
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
You truly have no idea what you're talking about, do you? "Black-on-black" violence is mentioned every single night on the news here and in most metropolitan areas. When black people "riot", it's covered nationwide far more than riots by white people (which are more common, by the way). It's amazing to me how you speak with such authority on a topic you know absolutely nothing about.
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It is, you could fool me. And if it is mentioned every day. Then why is Black on black violence happening?
 
TurtleDude said:
Not a fan of Tombstone are you? you were mentioning Old west shootouts



somehow I don't think bikers shooting bikers were quite so organized
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That was a great movie. Completely ashamed that I missed the reference.
 
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Hey i don't mind the 2nd Amendment at all as long as you old white gang bangers keep killing each other:lamo, Hey where the tea maggot hero Palin now LOCK AND LOAD HEEEEE HAWWWWW!!!! :applaud
 
X Factor said:
Am I the only one who thinks this is a little cool - like an old west shoot out (that's presuming only those involved were the ones who got their asses shot)?
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Yes, it looks like you are. :2rofll:
 
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