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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

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    so if black males make up 6% of the population and commit more than HALF the murders nationally, the obvious fact is

    Blacks are FAR more likely to commit murders than whites who are what 6X the population?
    It's funny how you choose which statistics you want to talk about depending on which ones will make black people look worse. At first, you wanted to talk about the prevalence of crime, but when that backfired, you moved to crime rates. Now, you've moved on to comparing population percentage to murder percentage. You cherry pick statistics in order to denigrate the black population. Even further, you are more than willing to discuss how you think affirmative action creates unqualified black doctors, but you quickly changed the subject when unqualified white beneficiaries of legacy admissions were brought up. Your racism is so transparent.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

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    You said the media doesn't care about black on black violence yet it is just as prevalent as white violence in total.

    If you want to talk rate then you have to account for different social factors. You should know since you're a "criminology expert" that almost all these crimes take place in the ghetto, right? Do you think blacks that live in nice middle class or upper class neighborhoods have the same high murder rate? Of course they don't.
    blacks of a given socioeconomic strata are far more likely to commit murders than whites in the same strata.

    there are more poor (below the poverty line) whites in America than there are blacks total and that includes rich blacks, middle class blacks and poor blacks. Yet all those poor whites commit less murders than all of the blacks, poor, middle class and wealthy combined
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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

    I wonder what the initial motivation for the animosity was? With gang bangers I can understand it. It usually originates over turf wars, over who gets to sell drugs where. It is about cold hard cash. It doesn't justify it but I get it.

    I wonder what it was here. Is Sons of Anarchy more realistic than I give it credit for? Do modern day biker gangs actually have their hands in gun and drug running?

    Or was it over something completely mundane?

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

    From local KCEN:

    Police had been made aware of growing gang activity at Twin Peaks but did not receive cooperation from the management. Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton stated that the event could have been avoided had the restaurant worked with Waco PD.

    "This is one of the worst gun fights we've ever had in the city limits. They started shooting at our officers," Swanton said.

    At least three people have been arrested post-shooting.

    Police have declined to release the names of the gangs involved, but at least five were present. Some of the gangs were fighting as allies. Police estimate that between 150-200 gang members were involved.

    ...Police ask that civilians continue to avoid the area, because they believe more biker gangs are traveling to the area.

    Multiple agencies, including the Texas Department of Safety and Federal Bureau of Investigation, are on scene to help with the investigation. BREAKING: Nine Dead in Shooting at Twin Peaks - kcentv.com - KCEN HD - Waco, Temple, and Killeen

    From Dallas's Fox station:

    Swanton said at least five rival gangs gathered at Twin Peaks for a meeting that he said focused on turf and recruitment, two areas where the groups have often clashed. Preliminary findings indicate a dispute broke out in a bathroom and then spilled into the restaurant where it escalated to include knives and firearms, he said. There were 150 to 200 gang members inside the restaurant at the time.

    Police were aware of the meeting in advance, and at least 12 Waco officers in addition to state troopers were outside the restaurant, part of a national chain that features scantily clad waitresses, when the fight began. Armed bikers were shot by officers, Swanton said, adding that the actions of law enforcement prevented further deaths. It was not known if any of the nine dead were killed by police officers.

    Swanton said that the restaurant's operators were also aware of the meeting in advance and would not cooperate with authorities.

    "Apparently the management (of Twin Peaks) wanted them here and so we didn't have any say-so on whether they could be here or not," Swanton said. 9 dead, 18 injured in Waco biker gang shooting - Fox4News.com | Dallas-Fort Worth News, Weather, Sports

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Do modern day biker gangs actually have their hands in gun and drug running?

    -Mexican drug cartels use Biker gangs, Mexican gangs and black gangs in the US to distribute their drugs. Biker gangs are the most used method as they are basically a weaponized mobile illegal pharmacy and basically every modern drug user knows this hence US biker gangs are Mexican drug cartels main distributor. They have been for several decades now.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

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    Playing the odds, a black doctor is far more likely to have benefited from affirmative action to get into medical school than whatever you are talking about
    That's one of the big disservices of affirmative action. Hurts those that have truly succeeded without some type of quota system.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    There were 150 to 200 gang members inside the restaurant at the time.
    I am definitely just putting my dinner in the doggie bag and leaving a nice tip.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

    Am I the only one who thinks this is a little cool - like an old west shoot out (that's presuming only those involved were the ones who got their asses shot)?

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