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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I know. I just laughed at the premise of a Texan blaming the federal government for crime in their state. I'm guessing Fenton doesn't think crime is a state's issue?
    I'm absolutely certain both federal and local law enforcement knew something was afoot... the feds issued a bulletin prior to the meeting laying it all out... that's why local PD was so close to respond.


    it's a damned shame it had to happen at a function where other clubs(99%ers) were attending ( TCCI meeting)....

    8 dead Cossacks and 1 dead Bandito later, here we are.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

    The ATF knew.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The ATF knew.
    it might have been much much worse had they been in the dark.... hell, not even might... it would have been much worse.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    nothing unexpected about it at all, anyone wearing a rocker in Texas has seen it coming for quite a while, though not in such a dramatic fashion....
    lil battles have been springing up quite a bit... this is just the first to get wide coverage.
    the Feds knew it was brewing, and they've informed the police statewide that a "war" was in the air.

    Cossacks (Angel affiliates) have been breaking the rules for quite some time....this was "judgement day", little else.

    Thanks, I don't really keep up with the latest biker news since I got out of LE.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The motorcycle gangs of Texas (actually the Bandidos are an international gang with branches in Europe, South and Central America) can't hold a candle to the gang bangers of Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, etc.. Gang murders and shootouts in those cities barely even make the news any more. Since the Waco fight three gang bangers have already been killed in Chicago, and that goes on all year.

    Such events are notable for their rarity in Texas. In the blue cities they are so prevalent it's just business as usual and nobody pays any attention.
    Dog bite's man. = Not newsworthy.
    Man bites dog. = Front page news.

    So much violence happens in communities surrounding MLK Blvd that it isn't considered news at all anymore. Unless, of course, it's a white cop that pulls the trigger.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The Bandidos were fearsome even back in the '70's.
    Very true, if memory serves me right (I like reading about sub cultures of all sorts), the Bandidos were founded right behind the initial "Big Three" of the Hells Angels, Pagans and Outlaws. As you mentioned, they were also founded as committed outlaw bikers, not as a psuedo riding club. Like some of the other groups, they have tried to clean up their image - to a degree.

    One recent president even expelled three members who ambush stabbed and killed a popular boxer following some sort of "You looked at my girl friend- now you gotta leave the party, and we are keeping your party toys" type dispute. I think he also even allowed club members to testify against the former members citing that the "disrespect" shown by the boxer did not warrant uhmmm.... that kind of violence and that as the boxer was unarmed, confronting him with a knife was also cowardly.
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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

    Is there nothing that stops gang members from getting conclealed gun permits or do they have to of committed a crime?
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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Is there nothing that stops gang members from getting conclealed gun permits or do they have to of committed a crime?
    My general impression is that unless they have been convicted of a disqualifying criminal offense, or are a psychiatric reject, they can still get permits.

    Also, the legal definition of "gang" is pretty exacting and in California at least, the group had to be orgainized explicitly for criminal activity to have the anti gang legislation apply to members. It might be difficult to show that the modern 1% Biker groups are explicitly orgainized for criminal activity- though they may have some, or many, individual criminal members.

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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    8 dead Cossacks and 1 dead Bandito later, here we are.
    Wow, that death toll may mean the end of the Cossacks as a viable biker group.

    I imagine that it is very important for these biker groups be able to demonstrate that they can "give as good as they take" and that they can also protect their own members. An 8-1 Cossack to Bandido death ratio does not demonstrate either one. I cant see those numbers giving potential Cossack recruits alot of confidence.
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    Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    not per capita

    black males are less than 7% of the population and commit more than HALF the murders

    If I go to a WHITE doctor I know he didn't get into medical school due to his race

    same with an ASIAN doctor. in fact an ASIAN doctor probably had to have even higher credentials since there are so many well qualified ASIAN applicants to medical school
    Your statements are nothing more than racial stereotyping, and enforcing socially race based privileges for Asians.

    It surprises me to hear so many US citizens, making tons of benevolent racial stereotypes about Asians. When I go to other countries with large amounts of Asian migrants, like Australia, they talk as bad about Asians as Americans talk about blacks and Mexicans.

    The least prejudice attitude would be to judge your doctor by their skills, not the color of their skin.

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