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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It's not absent now btw. You're just used to it. Whenever any of my relatives from up north in the mountains go to Disneyland during the summer, they all swear it's the last time, the air is so rank.
    No, I haven't lived in SoCal for 32 years, and the air quality is magnitudes better when I return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    And did, as was pointed out earlier in this thread. Why Did a 1542 Spanish Voyage Refer to San Pedro Bay as the 'Bay of the Smoke'? | LA as Subject | SoCal Focus | KCET

    Tricky Dick, that old crazy liberal.
    Yes, the Spanish saw the smoke and aptly named it smoky bay. Where's the paradox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, the OP does not point that out. It points out that jobs are being created in CA by Mitsubishi in response to increased demand.

    Do try to tell the truth
    LOL. I guess you had to think about that awhile before you had a brainstorm of an idea.

    Only someone on the left could reach the insane conclusion you did. There is little hope for someone with such qualifications.


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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, I haven't lived in SoCal for 32 years, and the air quality is magnitudes better when I return.
    Absolutely poisonous to just poisonous may be "magnitudes better" technically, but in terms of living or visiting there, very little difference in effect. They still have smog alerts and the local news still passes it off as no big deal. Like the side effects blasted through on every prescribed medication commercial.

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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Do you remember what Southern California's air looked like in the 1970's and 80's? Were you around then? Thanks to "Liberals" our air quality has improved substantially. Imagine what our air would be like if Liberals hadn't passed strong environmental laws in California. Industry is good but not at the expense of the environment.
    You do realize that smog is not CO2, yes? Cities all over the country have cleaned up their act without the absurd cap-and-trade scheme that is killing California blue collar jobs.
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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You do realize that smog is not CO2, yes? Cities all over the country have cleaned up their act without the absurd cap-and-trade scheme that is killing California blue collar jobs.
    Indeed. In fact quite a bit of that smog had to do, not with cars/gas burning vehicles, but with regular old burning. Things got much better when the state started to prohibit the burning off of the rice fields during certain seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    No, in the state of California, it was Progressives. And they did it my lying to the voters, and using gut and paste to create a new bill in the dead of night on a Saturday night during extraordinary session.

    That's how progressives do things. When they raise their hand to pass laws and regulations nobody wants, they make sure to raise the middle finger to voters while doing so.
    Well, not really. California idiotically labeled CO2 a pollutant. CO2 is a GHG.

    CO2 is a "pollutant" in the same way water vapor is a "pollutant".
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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well, not really. California idiotically labeled CO2 a pollutant. CO2 is a GHG.

    CO2 is a "pollutant" in the same way water vapor is a "pollutant".
    True. A more accurate depiction of what they did.

    Having done so, this opened the way for the now infamous AB 32, and many other actions that are harming not only California citizens, but citizens in other states as well. Most recently, California regulators doubled down on CO2 emission levels standards, which will cause everyone buying a new car to pay more for it, no matter what state they live in.

    California Progressives know the power they have, and openly talk about how they will force the Nation to comply to the regulations and standards they demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Are you seriously making the claim that government regs alone are solely responsible for advancements in fuel efficiency and emission technology? Do you have tangible evidence to support that ridiculous claim?
    The government did not develop the new technology, it just set the conditions that caused the technology to develop. The catalytic convert, electrostatic precipitators would not have been developed had the government not set emission regulations for auto's and coal power plants.

    If you want proof check out China, which has access to that technology, but does not enforce air pollution regulations very much. Companies are not on their own going to build and develop items that will increase costs, that consumers would not pay extra for if they do not have to
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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The government did not develop the new technology, it just set the conditions that caused the technology to develop. The catalytic convert, electrostatic precipitators would not have been developed had the government not set emission regulations for auto's and coal power plants.

    If you want proof check out China, which has access to that technology, but does not enforce air pollution regulations very much. Companies are not on their own going to build and develop items that will increase costs, that consumers would not pay extra for if they do not have to
    Again, comparing apples to bowling balls. Are you seriously comparing communist China with the the United States? Seriously?

    That's your tangible evidence?

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