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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Those advances happened because of the emissions laws, not due to the civic mindedness of auto makers.
    It takes two to tango. Do you really believe onerous California regulations alone are responsible for advancements in vehicle technology?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Those advances are directly the result of emissions standards set by the EPA (nationally) and by the California Air Resources Board (in California). As the EPA and any environmental regulatory agency are regularly under attack by conservatives, it's safe to say Conservatives today no longer get to claim credit for emissions standards.
    Are you seriously making the claim that government regs alone are solely responsible for advancements in fuel efficiency and emission technology? Do you have tangible evidence to support that ridiculous claim?

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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I do, I grew up there in the 60's-70's, the brown smog that hung over LA was ever present.
    If you did then you'd have heard all about the inversion layer that sits on LA during the spring and summer months. You know the native peoples used to throw a torch on that as they left for the summer to go to higher climes.

    Your smog was mostly due to all vehicles then burning leaded gasoline while you were locked inside a jar with the lid closed. That's better now, but still heinous. The real problem is, people shouldn't be living there during that season. Even old wood fires would make the region smoggy.

    Btw, you do know that it was Nixon that signed the EPA into existence and supported it all the way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you did then you'd have heard all about the inversion layer that sits on LA during the spring and summer months. You know the native peoples used to throw a torch on that as they left for the summer to go to higher climes.

    Your smog was mostly due to all vehicles then burning leaded gasoline while you were locked inside a jar with the lid closed. That's better now, but still heinous. The real problem is, people shouldn't be living there during that season. Even old wood fires would make the region smoggy.

    Btw, you do know that it was Nixon that signed the EPA into existence and supported it all the way?
    And did. As was pointed out earlier in this thread.

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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So the natives had been burning off the land as they were want to do, and the smoke settled there. What's that got to do with the fact that the LA area was under smog perennially when I grew up there and is absent now.
    It's not absent now btw. You're just used to it. Whenever any of my relatives from up north in the mountains go to Disneyland during the summer, they all swear it's the last time, the air is so rank.

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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you did then you'd have heard all about the inversion layer that sits on LA during the spring and summer months. You know the native peoples used to throw a torch on that as they left for the summer to go to higher climes.

    Your smog was mostly due to all vehicles then burning leaded gasoline while you were locked inside a jar with the lid closed. That's better now, but still heinous. The real problem is, people shouldn't be living there during that season. Even old wood fires would make the region smoggy.

    Btw, you do know that it was Nixon that signed the EPA into existence and supported it all the way?
    And did, as was pointed out earlier in this thread. Why Did a 1542 Spanish Voyage Refer to San Pedro Bay as the 'Bay of the Smoke'? | LA as Subject | SoCal Focus | KCET

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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm sorry you can't read. Not sure you want to be so forthcoming with that admission.

    The OP points out that local industry can't supply demand because of Progressive forced regulations, so those jobs are being sent overseas, rather than benefitting US citizens. So goes the Progressive meme about offshoring by evil corporations.

    Do try to keep up Sangha.
    your wasting time.

    these guys don't care that a company could build and hire another 500 people. that is just off their radar.
    they whine that companies shift jobs overseas but refuse to let up on the regulations that do so.

    they cry that companies won't create more jobs but continue to increase the cost of making those jobs.

    the irony is so bad they can't even see it in front of their face.

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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The OP points out that local industry can't supply demand because of Progressive forced regulations, so those jobs are being sent overseas, rather than benefitting US citizens. So goes the Progressive meme about offshoring by evil corporations.

    Do try to keep up Sangha.
    No, the OP does not point that out. It points out that jobs are being created in CA by Mitsubishi in response to increased demand.

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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    I actually do agree with the right that us liberals are destroying jobs, I mean it's hard to refute the solid facts that the blue states of Nevada, Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisville, and West Virginia are 2-6th in the nation in terms of unemployment.
    http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-a...nt-update.aspx

    If it wasn't for damn liberals, those blue states above would be begging people to come fill jobs they'd have such low unemployment rates, but alas they vote for liberals so they get to suffer.

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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you did then you'd have heard all about the inversion layer that sits on LA during the spring and summer months. You know the native peoples used to throw a torch on that as they left for the summer to go to higher climes.

    Your smog was mostly due to all vehicles then burning leaded gasoline while you were locked inside a jar with the lid closed. That's better now, but still heinous. The real problem is, people shouldn't be living there during that season. Even old wood fires would make the region smoggy.

    Btw, you do know that it was Nixon that signed the EPA into existence and supported it all the way?
    Yes, and good for Nixon.
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