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    re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    California simply has too much government thanks to the worst state legislature in the nation.

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    re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Carbon dioxide does not change its behavior due to legislation.
    Of course it does.

    When Progressives buckled under pressure from voters, CO2 caused a change in behavior to force voters to submit to it's will.


    http://ageconsearch.umn.edu/bitstrea...2/wp071040.pdf

    This changed significantly with the enactment of AB 1493, requiring CARB to adopt regulations to reduce GHG emissions by new motor vehicles sold in California. The bill was introduced originally as AB 1058 at the beginning of the legislative session in February 2001 by a freshman legislator, Fran Pavley, from Southern California.

    The bill was revived through a parliamentary maneuver on Saturday June 29, when the Senate was meeting in a special session on the state budget. An existing, unrelated bill, AB 1493, was gutted by the Democratic leadership and amended to bear the content of AB 1058. This was passed by the Assembly with a bare majority on a mostly party-line vote. It was passed by the Senate that same day, and Governor Davis signed it into law a few weeks later.


    So, once again, Progressives tell voters to sit down, shut up, and submit to our will. And the Nation is forced to accept it, right, or wrong.

    That what it means to be Progressive.
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    re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    If only the automobile pollution controls were in place before the '60's and '70's:

    Why Did a 1542 Spanish Voyage Refer to San Pedro Bay as the 'Bay of the Smoke'? | LA as Subject | SoCal Focus | KCET

    A blanket of haze hung over the land that would become Los Angeles on October 8, 1542, when Spanish sailors entered San Pedro (or perhaps Santa Monica) Bay and made the first written observations of the Southland. This early air pollution so impressed the sailors and their captain, Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo, that they named the area "Baya de los Fumos, or "Bay of the Smokes."
    So the natives had been burning off the land as they were want to do, and the smoke settled there. What's that got to do with the fact that the LA area was under smog perennially when I grew up there and is absent now.
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    re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, the article in the OP provides an example of industry expanding its' operations, and not one example of a job loss.
    I'm sorry you can't read. Not sure you want to be so forthcoming with that admission.

    The OP points out that local industry can't supply demand because of Progressive forced regulations, so those jobs are being sent overseas, rather than benefitting US citizens. So goes the Progressive meme about offshoring by evil corporations.

    Do try to keep up Sangha.
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    re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So the natives had been burning off the land as they were want to do, and the smoke settled there. What's that got to do with the fact that the LA area was under smog perennially when I grew up there and is absent now.
    Just pointing out the geography of this area plays a big role in what people see. And while vastly improved, California is still susceptible to pollution from outside it's borders, although Progressives don't like to think about that as they pass more and more job killing regulations ignoring this fact.
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    re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Using California as a example of the successes of Liberal policies pegs the irony meter.

    It leads the Nation in debt and unfunded liabilities, has the Highest poverty rates in the Nation, is home to 1/3 of the Nation's Welfare recipients even though it only has 1/8 of the Nation's citizen's and is driving out Millions of its tax paying citizens and hundreds of its Businesses to Red States like Texas.

    Energy prices are higher and so is the cost of living.

    In " Progressive " cities like San Francisco and Berkeley only the rich can afford to own property and businesses and crime rates are disproportionately divided between white and minorities.

    In San Francisco blacks are charged for 40 percent of the Cities murders.
    Hilarious how the silly libs in this thread are running from this post, which pretty much crucified their entire argument.

    California is such a craphole, and it's so sad. It should be the jewel of the US, and instead it's just a growing cesspool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    That is mostly because of a reduction in emissions from vehicles due in large part to advances in technology. Nice try though.
    Those advances are directly the result of emissions standards set by the EPA (nationally) and by the California Air Resources Board (in California). As the EPA and any environmental regulatory agency are regularly under attack by conservatives, it's safe to say Conservatives today no longer get to claim credit for emissions standards.

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    re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    Was I around? I've been breathing SoCal air since the mid-50's, so yes, I was around. And it wasn't just liberals who passed air quality legislation. So let's not attempt to re-write history.

    AB32 has little to do with this strawman you've thrown out. But thanks for the comment.
    So it wasn't just liberals who passes environmental laws, but jobs getting outsourced is all liberals' fault. Gotcha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So it wasn't just liberals who passes environmental laws, but jobs getting outsourced is all liberals' fault. Gotcha.
    The post you have commented on related specifically to automobile pollution regulations that passed in the '60's.

    Another FAIL on your part Kobie.
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    Re: Mitsubishi Cement Corp. expanding Long Beach operations

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The post you have commented on related specifically to automobile pollution regulations that passed in the '60's.

    Another FAIL on your part Kobie.
    Mkay.
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