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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Every racist feels good about supporting racism and every racist believes his decision to promote racism to be an intelligent decision.
    No doubt you believe you're being unique here but you really aren't and I'm sorry to disappoint you.
    There's nothing helpful in dividing people into different groups based on their race.
    I have no doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs. I just don't care. /shrug

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Let's say I run a school and only allow white people into the school. Then, 20 years later, I decide to allow black people, but I also give preferential treatment towards legacies. Since I discriminated against black people in the past, the legacy policy favors white applicants which means that my past direct discrimination becomes current indirect discrimination. The only way to counter that is to create a race conscious admissions policy.
    So in this case the correct move would be to ignore legacies, not to favor blacks over whites so to get things even. That's a childish thinking.
    And I don't see how in the case we have here there's anything analogous to the legacies issue in your scenario.
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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I have no doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs. I just don't care. /shrug
    Fair enough.
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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    And I don't see how in the case we have here there's anything analogous to the legacies issue in your scenario.
    Except for the fact that American colleges with legacy policies have historically excluded black people from admission thus ensuring that their legacy policies benefit white applicants.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Less may apply, but don't pretend it's alright or not discrimination over the fact that schools set lower standards for certain races and oftentimes have race-based scholarships. It's discrimination and it's wrong. There are schools pretty much devoted to minorities as well.
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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I feel good about supporting affirmative action and I'm glad I'm intelligent enough to not buy into the myth that it's racism. I think it's a shame that so many people hide their racism under the guise of supporting so-called "race-blind" college admissions (which are, in actuality, racist towards people of color). I'm glad I finally saw through that sham.
    Well, since you clearly oppose selection based on non-racial grounds you are a clear defender of racism in iTS most pure form.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Well, since you clearly oppose selection based on non-racial grounds you are a clear defender of racism in iTS most pure form.
    I'm sure you sincerely believe what you just wrote. It's unfortunate that you believe so sincerely in something that is so laughably untrue.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I'm sure you sincerely believe what you just wrote. It's unfortunate that you believe so sincerely in something that is so laughably untrue.
    I don't think it's untrue in the least. I've read your posts here, and you've made very clear that you favor discriminating by race in college admissions. You may sincerely believe that discriminating by race is not racism, but unfortunately most people will not make such a nice distinction between the two.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I'm sure you sincerely believe what you just wrote. It's unfortunate that you believe so sincerely in something that is so laughably untrue.
    You are the one who argues that the daughters of Obama should be considered As underpriviliged by a university while the daughters of a white couple living on minimum wage should be considered overpriviliged. You are simply deeply racist.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    You are the one who argues that the daughters of Obama should be considered As underpriviliged by a university while the daughters of a white couple living on minimum wage should be considered overpriviliged. You are simply deeply racist.
    AA has absolutely no effect on Obama's daughters getting into college.
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