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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The hypcrocisy in this thread is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
    That's liberalism for you. They insist that discriminating against whites and asians is a way to FIGHT racism!!

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

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    And that's why there's a disproportionately high percentage of black people in college.
    Affirmative action ban at UC, 15 years later - San Jose Mercury News

    get rid of affirmative action and blacks getting into top tier public universities plummet
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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Fun fact: White women are the main beneficiaries of AA.
    I don't doubt that and that needs to end also.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

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    Affirmative action ban at UC, 15 years later - San Jose Mercury News

    get rid of affirmative action and blacks getting into top tier public universities plummet
    And that is entirely the fault of black people.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Nobody said anything about the Obamas. I know that you're trying to use deductive reasoning to draw a conclusion about how my argument would affect Sasha and Malia Obama, but I suggest that you stop because you've failed.
    I am just pointing out your purely racist attitude to college admissions.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Obama's daughters are...

    1)Children of a politician

    2)Children of an Ivy Graduate.


    If you knew anything about Elite college admissions you'd know that those two factors each have a much greater chance of them being accepted into an elite school than their race. However since you're a conservative race-baiter you're ignoring these factors. You're a typical conservative.
    Too bad you fail to understand what the discussion is about. try removing your ideological blinkers.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    We don't live in a meritocracy to begin with and Harvard cannot operate as a strictly numbers based admissions because it rejects 50% of apps with PERFECT grades and SAT. Think about that. This guarantees that without AA, only the kids of the 1% will get in.

    AA can be seen largely as leveling the playing field and besides, the idea is that a diverse campus benefits everyone. The fact is that *maybe* 200 fewer white or asian kids get in, out of 20,000 applications. Harvard could simply accept 200 more and call it a day, if they wanted, but they *like* and *choose* to reject as many as possible. In fact, they encourage kids with no chance to get in to apply, just to keep the admit rate low.

    So no, you aren't getting into harvard, with or without AA. The greater uproar should be over the far lower standards for athletes, as i just don't see how that contributes anything of value to a place like that.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    We don't live in a meritocracy to begin with and Harvard cannot operate as a strictly numbers based admissions because it rejects 50% of apps with PERFECT grades and SAT. Think about that. This guarantees that without AA, only the kids of the 1% will get in.

    AA can be seen largely as leveling the playing field and besides, the idea is that a diverse campus benefits everyone. The fact is that *maybe* 200 fewer white or asian kids get in, out of 20,000 applications. Harvard could simply accept 200 more and call it a day, if they wanted, but they *like* and *choose* to reject as many as possible. In fact, they encourage kids with no chance to get in to apply, just to keep the admit rate low.

    So no, you aren't getting into harvard, with or without AA. The greater uproar should be over the far lower standards for athletes, as i just don't see how that contributes anything of value to a place like that.
    Affirmative action does not "level the playing field" because it treats people purely on the basis of the colour of their skin, i.e. it considers a rich Black kid more disadvantaged than a poor White kid.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Affirmative action ban at UC, 15 years later - San Jose Mercury News

    get rid of affirmative action and blacks getting into top tier public universities plummet
    There's a radical group of black students here who try to block traffic and hold sit ins to "force" admission to admit more blacks each year, but each year since the state ban the % goes down.

    Under the quota system, none would ever do group work with black/hispanic classmates. It was assumed they didn't belong. Since those minorities graduated at 20% lower rate, there's an argument the system didn't benefit them either.

    So why is a bunch of black students who did earn their way demanding a return to this? "Not enough here look like me." What, skin color is all that matters? They can't make friends who aren't black? What's especially hilarious is these groups are usually from the more affluent black families, certainly not the detroit ghetto. They have more in common with most of the white students than they would've with the black students who used to get in only cause of quotas.

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    Re: Harvard accused of bias against Asian-Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Actually, affirmative action is about countering other admissions policies that benefit white people unequally, including legacy policies, so the policies discussed in the OP have everything to do with that. If you don't understand this, then that explains why you are so committed to your misinformed position on affirmative action - you truly have no idea what you're talking about. I almost stopped responding to you because your comments were so absurd, but now I'm glad I continued because I understand the root of the absurdity.
    What utter nonsense. Yes AA is about countering other admissions that have existed in the past but these admissions no longer exist, the way you argue that we need racial discrimination at present so to counter the racial discrimination of the past is nothing short of childish and ridiculously ignorant behavior.

    I honestly could not care less if you keep responding to me or not, contrary to what you may have falsely convinced yourself about you you are not that important, certainly not when your arguments are so poorly constructed and are backed by childish and backwards thinking.

    The only reason I wasted time with you at all is because I was interested seeing what makes a person favor one type of racism over the other.
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