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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The White House has an answer for critics who want to know how the Obama administration can justify striking ISIS inside Syria under international law: If and when we actually do it, we will come up with a legal justification then.
    Fair enough. International Law only exists at the sufferance of the states who are willing to enforce it and international law as it relates to issues of war, peace, and human rights exists almost exclusively because the Democratic Community, backed by the United States, has the willingness to uphold it. We should be, and luckily are, perfectly willing to infringe on the edges of that law and those norms in order to further the interests of civilization (the defeat of ISIS), which in turn benefits those very same norms. In other words we can break the rules because we are the ones who have to make sure those norms aren't obliterated. If you want to complain about fairness and equity you can take that toy and bring it back to preschool.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The White House has an answer for critics who want to know how the Obama administration can justify striking ISIS inside Syria under international law: If and when we actually do it, we will come up with a legal justification then.
    Funny how Assad claimed credit for the Attack, huh?



    Syrian state television said the Syrian army killed an Islamic State leader responsible for oil-related affairs, identifying him as Abu al-Taym al-Saudi.....snip~

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Fair enough. International Law only exists at the sufferance of the states who are willing to enforce it and international law as it relates to issues of war, peace, and human rights exists almost exclusively because the Democratic Community, backed by the United States, has the willingness to uphold it. We should be, and luckily are, perfectly willing to infringe on the edges of that law and those norms in order to further the interests of civilization (the defeat of ISIS), which in turn benefits those very same norms. In other words we can break the rules because are the ones who have to make sure those norms aren't obliterated. If you want to complain about fairness and equity you can take that toy and bring it back to preschool.
    Ok, but that's a whole other argument which I appreciate you bringing up.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Funny how Assad claimed credit for the Attack, huh?



    Syrian state television said the Syrian army killed an Islamic State leader responsible for oil-related affairs, identifying him as Abu al-Taym al-Saudi.....snip~
    That's hilarious. Is he saying that it was a joint combat mission between the US and Syrian forces?
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Funny how Assad claimed credit for the Attack, huh?



    Syrian state television said the Syrian army killed an Islamic State leader responsible for oil-related affairs, identifying him as Abu al-Taym al-Saudi.....snip~
    Yeah, I saw that. If anyone was going to object, it would've been the Syrians. But since they've claimed credit, that's off the table. If the mission had been a failure, there would be some here in the US that would've objected, but since it was a success, I don't think we'll hear any of that. Except for a few here, naturally. So it's one bad guy down...and I'm wondering what AlBigDaddy is feeling about his own security now.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's hilarious. Is he saying that it was a joint combat mission between the US and Syrian forces?
    How do we know it wasn't?

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    How do we know it wasn't?
    I don't know, that's why I'm asking MMC.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    WHITE HOUSE HAS NO INTERNATIONAL LEGAL JUSTIFICATION FOR HITTING ISIS IN SYRIA
    BY JOSH ROGIN 09.23.1412:00 AM ET
    The White House has an answer for critics who want to know how the Obama administration can justify striking ISIS inside Syria under international law: If and when we actually do it, we will come up with a legal justification then.

    White House Has No International Legal Justification for Hitting ISIS in Syria - The Daily Beast

    Guess Obama came up with his back door, mission creep excuse.
    I am really trying to read this thread with an open mind and ignore my bias but it is hard to do when you use the Dailybeast as a reference. It does bring up some interesting points tho. I am not sure I agree with those points but it is still interesting.
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    We should always be aware and on alert of government over-reach and whittling away of rights....not just when our political party isn't in the Oval Office.
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    I'm sorry that you feel the need to defame the Americans who voted for Hillary Clinton, and that democratic institutions mean so little to you.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by NonoBadDog View Post
    I am really trying to read this thread with an open mind and ignore my bias but it is hard to do when you use the Dailybeast as a reference. It does bring up some interesting points tho. I am not sure I agree with those points but it is still interesting.
    The same story has several sources, that was just the one I grabbed. Which one would you prefer, I'll go grab it from them for you. Boots on the ground is mission creep.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Yep, but folks wanted a U.S. presence in Syria to go after ISIS. Now, they have it.
    No, only the war mongerers wanted that.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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