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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

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    WHITE HOUSE HAS NO INTERNATIONAL LEGAL JUSTIFICATION FOR HITTING ISIS IN SYRIA
    BY JOSH ROGIN 09.23.1412:00 AM ET
    The White House has an answer for critics who want to know how the Obama administration can justify striking ISIS inside Syria under international law: If and when we actually do it, we will come up with a legal justification then.

    White House Has No International Legal Justification for Hitting ISIS in Syria - The Daily Beast

    Guess Obama came up with his back door, mission creep excuse.
    Nobody cares.
    Feel free to open a R.I.P thread to the ISIL scumbag.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The first time was mission creep, what's your point?
    Lol, so this wasn't mission creep then--end of discussion.

    By the way you haven't made any effort to explain how our raids and hostage rescue missions have been mission creep. The mission has been to retard the growth of, and if possible diminish, the Islamic State. From the very beginning this involved air strikes, hostage rescue missions, special operations raids, supply drops, evacuations, etc. By definition if it falls within the scope of the stated mission and involves activities we've been doing from the beginning it isn't mission creep.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Nobody cares.
    Feel free to open a R.I.P thread to the ISIL scumbag.

    Not many people care when the US violates rule of law, true.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Lol, so this wasn't mission creep then--end of discussion.

    By the way you haven't made any effort to explain how our raids and hostage rescue missions have been mission creep. The mission has been to retard the growth of, and if possible diminish, the Islamic State. From the very beginning this involved air strikes, hostage rescue missions, special operations raids, supply drops, evacuations, etc. By definition if it falls within the scope of the stated mission and involves activities we've been doing from the beginning it isn't mission creep.
    Any boots on the ground in Syria anytime is mission creep.

    In an effort to address congressional qualms about the prospect of air strikes on Syria turning into a far broader, open-ended military operation, Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.) on Tuesday said they were drafting a resolution that would put sharp limits on the scope and authority that lawmakers would give President Obama to conduct the attack.

    As proposed by Van Hollen and Connolly, the resolution would have four major components:

    ●A legally binding stipulation that no ground troops would be deployed.

    Reps. Chris Van Hollen, Gerry Connolly draft narrow authorization of force in Syria - The Washington Post
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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    As usual, you carry your inflated opinion of yourself.


    This constitutes mission creep, as I pointed to in my very first post.
    No it doesn't. Mission Creep involves the importation of new missions to justify continued presence or simply out of inertia. The mission (Kill ISIL leadership, degrade the organization) was the focus of this strike. It doesn't represent a new mission, it represents a new attack method (SOF) that includes a "Capture" potential.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Any boots on the ground in Syria anytime is mission creep.

    In an effort to address congressional qualms about the prospect of air strikes on Syria turning into a far broader, open-ended military operation, Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.) on Tuesday said they were drafting a resolution that would put sharp limits on the scope and authority that lawmakers would give President Obama to conduct the attack.

    As proposed by Van Hollen and Connolly, the resolution would have four major components:

    ●A legally binding stipulation that no ground troops would be deployed.

    Reps. Chris Van Hollen, Gerry Connolly draft narrow authorization of force in Syria - The Washington Post
    Do you know what the definition of a "Raid" and "Open Ended" are?


    It's worth asking because by definition, a raid is not open ended.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Any boots on the ground in Syria anytime is mission creep.

    In an effort to address congressional qualms about the prospect of air strikes on Syria turning into a far broader, open-ended military operation, Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.) on Tuesday said they were drafting a resolution that would put sharp limits on the scope and authority that lawmakers would give President Obama to conduct the attack.

    As proposed by Van Hollen and Connolly, the resolution would have four major components:

    ●A legally binding stipulation that no ground troops would be deployed.

    Reps. Chris Van Hollen, Gerry Connolly draft narrow authorization of force in Syria - The Washington Post


    How does that happen with rescue missions or attempted ones, again?

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Do you know what the definition of a "Raid" and "Open Ended" are?


    It's worth asking because by definition, a raid is not open ended.
    Do you know that this raid included boots on the ground?

    As proposed by Van Hollen and Connolly, the resolution would have four major components:

    ●A legally binding stipulation that no ground troops would be deployed.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    How does that happen with rescue missions or attempted ones, again?
    The White House has an answer for critics who want to know how the Obama administration can justify striking ISIS inside Syria under international law: If and when we actually do it, we will come up with a legal justification then.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Any boots on the ground in Syria anytime is mission creep.

    In an effort to address congressional qualms about the prospect of air strikes on Syria turning into a far broader, open-ended military operation, Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.) on Tuesday said they were drafting a resolution that would put sharp limits on the scope and authority that lawmakers would give President Obama to conduct the attack.

    As proposed by Van Hollen and Connolly, the resolution would have four major components:

    ●A legally binding stipulation that no ground troops would be deployed.

    Reps. Chris Van Hollen, Gerry Connolly draft narrow authorization of force in Syria - The Washington Post
    Why. You haven't offered any evidence of this assertion, meanwhile basic evidence and definitions clearly indicate otherwise.

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