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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So? There are plenty of 9/11 conspiracy theorists. That does not mean that each individual theorist is not also off his or her rocker.
    And what does that have to do with congressional concerns about mission creep in Syria, exactly.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And what does that have to do with congressional concerns about mission creep in Syria, exactly.
    It is an analogy. Congresscritters can also completely fail to know what they are talking about, or find it advantageous to misrepresent what they are talking about.
    Worth noting, Democrats: President Trump will have a Pen and a Phone. #Precedent.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It is an analogy. Congresscritters can also completely fail to know what they are talking about, or find it advantageous to misrepresent what they are talking about.
    Oh boy!

    Schiff has become an influential voice for his party in the House of Representatives on foreign policy and national security issues.[1] He serves as Ranking Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He is currently on leave from the House Appropriations Committee which he joined in 2007. He previously served on the United States House Foreign Affairs Committee, and serves on the State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Subcommittee of the Appropriations Committee.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    "Boots on the ground" in the contemporary colloquial sense implies a permanence or a semi-permanence. This "snatch and grab" raid is neither.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    "Boots on the ground" in the contemporary colloquial sense implies a permanence or a semi-permanence. This "snatch and grab" raid is neither.
    True.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    The point is "mission creep". It starts somewhere is the point that the ranking senator of HPSC on intelligence was making in his argument that is dismissed by all, who didn't even listen to it.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh boy!

    Schiff has become an influential voice for his party in the House of Representatives on foreign policy and national security issues.[1] He serves as Ranking Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He is currently on leave from the House Appropriations Committee which he joined in 2007. He previously served on the United States House Foreign Affairs Committee, and serves on the State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Subcommittee of the Appropriations Committee.

    Schiff is just one voice.....like Rand Paul, huh?




    Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, says "hats off" to the U.S. Special Forces who killed an ISIS leader and captured his wife during a daring raid inside Syria on Friday. He called the raid a "striking and risky success." "And I think before we see or embark on a lot more of these kinds of operations, we have to weigh the risk of escalation," Schiff told CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday.

    Schiff said there are two reasons to conduct such a risky raid in ISIS-controlled territory: "Either you can't launch a military strike from aircraft because of the risk of civilian casualties, or you think the intelligence value of what you are going to gain is sufficient to merit that kind of risk. "Now, obviously, we had very good intelligence here. You can't do an operation like this without knowing that your target is there, what kind of security they have, what the premises looks like, and enough to know you have a backup plan if things go wrong. So, our intelligence was good. "But, nonetheless, this was an extraordinary risk. If one of our people were captured, if we lost some of our special forces, there would be tough questions to answer about whether it was worth it. "And I think not withstanding the success of this operation, we still are going to have to ask those questions. Was the intelligence value that we hoped to gain and the fact that we are gaining worth this kind of risk?"

    Asked if the intelligence yield justified the risk in this case, Schiff said he didn't want to understate the significance of disrupting the Islamic State organization and possibly impacting their finances by killing the group's top money man. "Do you see this as boots on the ground?" host Brianna Keilar asked Schiff. "Well, there certainly are American boots on the ground," Schiff responded. "I don't see this as the same kind of a massive occupation or the beginning of that, like we had in Afghanistan or have had in Iraq in the past as well, but the risks go up the more you conduct these kinds of operations, the more you see the potential of being pulled in. And the problem with being pulled into this messy civil war, this awful civil war in Syria is that then you take ownership.....snip~

    Democrat Adam Schiff: 'We Have to Weigh the Risk of Escalation'

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The point is "mission creep". It starts somewhere is the point that the ranking senator of HPSC on intelligence was making in his argument that is dismissed by all, who didn't even listen to it.
    Heya Monte. Notice how Schiff doesn't consider this mission creep.



    After Syria Raid, FBI Interrogates ISIS Wife and Yazidi Slave.....

    It will take at least a week if not more to dig through the computers and other technical material seized in the raid at the lightly defended ISIS compound in Al Amr, in eastern Syria, U.S. officials said Sunday. The detainees taken from the raid—the target’s wife and a Yazidi slave—are being questioned by an elite FBI-led interagency team.

    Both are being interrogated in Iraq by the FBI’s High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team, according to House Intelligence Committee ranking member Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and a senior administration official who spoke anonymously because he was not authorized to speak publicly. She may have had a possible “operational role,” he added. “If the wife played a role in organization, she’ll be subject to prosecution by us or by Iraqi authorities,” he said.

    “But it demonstrates that our intelligence is getting better and better in Syria,” he added. “We couldn’t have done this a year ago.”.....snip~

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...idi-slave.html

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Mr. No Boots on the Ground is once again true to his word.

    This is however consistent with his Iran policy because Iran is the enemy of ISIS. Honestly, Obama's foreign policy is so muddled I have no Idea what the right thing to do is other that scrap the whole thing and start over.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Is a "Snatch and Grab" raid that kills the target a success?
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