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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It's a raid. Calling it "the administrations' language" is a misnomer. It is what it is.



    That's correct - it is called mission creep for a reason. Words mean things. Unfortunately, you continue to demonstrate that you have no idea why it's called mission creep, as you continue to incorrectly apply the term.
    Actually, I'm not the only one pointing out "mission creep" concerns.

    Rep. Schiff Discusses Concerns over "Mission Creep" in Iraq and Syria on NBC Nightly News
    View | Videos | News | U.S. Congressman Adam Schiff of California's 28th District

    This is besides the fact that the US sought legitimacy for military operations in Syria by applying for a UNSCR to use force in Syria, AND FAILED. So in typical US form, the UN is being dismissed and US force is being used in Syria anyway.

    "The US president has spoken directly about the possibility of strikes by the US armed forces against Isil (IS) positions in Syria without the consent of the legitimate government," ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich was quoted as saying.
    "This step, in the absence of a UN Security Council decision, would be an act of aggression, a gross violation of international law."

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29154481
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems "International Law" only applies to Americans.
    Completely backwards. Americans are the only ones that it doesn't apply to.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    So we should just let ISIS continue to murder, rape and destroy while Russia and China play politics? **** that!

    If you want to be a slave to China, Russia and/or the UN, go right ahead, son. Meanwhile, those of us who don't have our heads up our asses will be doing what needs to be done!
    Oh yeah, what will you be doing Road?
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Which means what ground the Islamic State has taken. Makes it a Rogue State. Especially considering Assad cannot exercise any control over that Ground.

    Wherein the UN Charter where does a Rogue State have any Rights?
    Syria's sovereign borders have not changed since the civil war has begun.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Which is precisely what you do in regards to Russian violations of international law regarding Ukraine.

    You can't have it both ways and as promised, I'll point out your hypocrisy on this whenever I see it.
    Both nations have and are violating international law. There's no hypocrisy there. Can you acknowledge the US's violations to international law?

    We're talking about Syria in this thread, but if you insist on bringing Ukraine in, I've repeatedly stated that I'm with the opinion of many that the Ukrainian crisis is Western made, and has prompted expected responses by Russia, some of which may violate international law, but certainly not all that they are doing.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    all this is fine and dandy..But with the Fall of Ramadi it's just a side show.

    Sunni Tribes have no-where to go in Iraq. They have to be wary of the Shiite militias, as well as the Iraqi (Shiite) Army.

    The Awakening did work because of US security guarantees -they are gone now.
    The Syrian leadership killing is good in the abstract, but as long as ISIL hold Anbar, no real pressure can be put on Mosul.
    That as well as the Regimes (Assad) near-collapse in Syria and the continual turmoil also favors ISIL..

    As long as Iraq ( Baghdad) is fraught with sectarianism at the government, and army level, the Sunni Tribes ( non-combatants)
    have no-where to go in Iraq, and as much as they hate ISIL, at least ISIL are Sunni, and won't openly slaughter them ..

    Keep it all in context, it's (Syrian leadership killing) big but not a huge deal

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    How so Monte? The mission was to degrade and contain ISIS. Taking away their money maker.....does degrade them some, huh?
    They are making a lot of money with human smuggling out of Syria,and down thru Libya, ( so called migrants)
    or directly to Europe.
    It hurts,but it's not crippling either. I don't 100% buy this below,but it has to be factored in

    ISIS Militants Are Making Millions Off of Human Smuggling Trade From Libya Into Europe, Report Finds

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Syria's sovereign borders have not changed since the civil war has begun.

    According to the Islamic State it has, and so has Iraq's.







    What did Ban ki Moon release about the Islamic State, again?
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Most certainly do. They led the charge in the destruction of Libya, too!
    That was Obama/Rice/Powers/Clinton.
    But if we wanna call them "neocons" you'll get no argument from me on Libya.

    We created a terrorist state..*whoops*..ISIL has an Affiliate there now, and the country is ungovernable

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