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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    I don't find it a coincidence that the target has to do with oil fields.
    Black market oil is how ISIS makes a good deal of its money. If we want to weaken ISIS, eliminating one of their major sources of revenue is an effective way of doing just that.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

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    Well, it did say shortly before the US Announcement. Do you think Assad has any control of that part of Syria?
    Not likely I suppose.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Again, you only demonstrate that you do not understand what a Raid is, nor what a deployment is, nor what "open ended" are in relation to either.



    But hey, if you think so, call up their office. See if Van Hollen (for example) believes that the Administration violated the law when it attempted to rescue American hostages last summer.
    And you demonstrate that you know how to split hairs, nice for you. Since it serves your purpose you hide behind the administrations language in this instance, but would call it out else where's, were it to help bolster your position. A combat operation inside Syria with boots on the ground is the kind of mission creep that the senators sought to avoid. It's called "creep" for a reason. We've seen such things in several places from Vietnam to the present.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    While it's not necessarily a bad thing that he got killed, capturing him would have given us much more intelligence than killing him (even though the SOF got his wife and some computers, which will also be useful). Nevertheless, ISIS has one less official capable of generating revenue, which is bound to hurt it. I don't foresee that the US will conduct raids like this more often - despite how professional American special forces are, there's always the possibility of a soldier getting killed or captured, and ISIS would gleefully execute an American prisoner of war if they got the chance.

    Does anyone know what units were involved?
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh, you mean the Saud and the Sunni, plus the Shia in Iraq? Since they weren't capable of doing it.....are you saying we shouldn't walk the walk when trying to get them to put people in on the ground.

    You do know.....that when Leading, sometimes it takes getting out in front. Not sitting in the back behind a desk and telling others what they need to do. When left with no other good choices. Actions speak louder than words.

    Now ISIS knows.....we are in their backyard. Just like they are in ours.
    We are involved in ISIS whether we agree with it or not. They are reaching out and radicalizing our American losers through technology. We are starting to see domestic terrorism in the US...we have had 2 in Texas, and one busted in Columbus OH, and another in Texas..in less than two weeks. Now that other ME countries have stepped up in the coalition and the Saudis blasting Yemen...I see more US involvement. They cannot handle this on their own and it is now in our backyards. Successful missions like this always strike a cord of pride in Americans...there are no better military than the US.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    We are involved in ISIS whether we agree with it or not. They are reaching out and radicalizing our American losers through technology. We are starting to see domestic terrorism in the US...we have had 2 in Texas, and one busted in Columbus OH, and another in Texas..in less than two weeks. Now that other ME countries have stepped up in the coalition and the Saudis blasting Yemen...I see more US involvement. They cannot handle this on their own and it is now in our backyards. Successful missions like this always strike a cord of pride in Americans...there are no better military than the US.

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And you demonstrate that you know how to split hairs, nice for you. Since it serves your purpose you hide behind the administrations language in this instance
    It's a raid. Calling it "the administrations' language" is a misnomer. It is what it is.

    A combat operation inside Syria with boots on the ground is the kind of mission creep that the senators sought to avoid. It's called "creep" for a reason.
    That's correct - it is called mission creep for a reason. Words mean things. Unfortunately, you continue to demonstrate that you have no idea why it's called mission creep, as you continue to incorrectly apply the term.
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    While it's not necessarily a bad thing that he got killed, capturing him would have given us much more intelligence than killing him (even though the SOF got his wife and some computers, which will also be useful). Nevertheless, ISIS has one less official capable of generating revenue, which is bound to hurt it. I don't foresee that the US will conduct raids like this more often - despite how professional American special forces are, there's always the possibility of a soldier getting killed or captured, and ISIS would gleefully execute an American prisoner of war if they got the chance.
    Someone getting captured strikes me as a fairly crazy scenario. Killed or wounded, maybe. But, er, I would not want to be the ISIL commander who suddenly discovered I was holding on to one of these guys. That strikes me as sort of like getting handed a grenade with the pin pulled. It's going to kill you, it's just a matter of when.

    Does anyone know what units were involved?
    NPR radio claimed it was "Delta Force".
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    Re: U.S. commandos enter Syria, kill Islamic State commander in charge of oil fields

    Why does the American government just skip to the inevitable and have US commandos based in every major city in the world...just so the POTUS can illegally kill anyone he/she is not particularly ga ga about?

    Hey, why stop there? Why not have a couple of commandos in every large town...for the same above reason?

    What am I saying? Why doesn't the UN just create a special charter that allows America to bomb/shoot anyone or anything it wants to in any country it feels like? And this charter could allow the POTUS to lock up anyone he/she wants, for as long as he/she wants and without charge?

    It would save time as we are heading in that direction anyway.



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