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Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

I could never support the death penalty because innocent people will get killed. That said I'm not losing any sleep over this.
 
I bet pay-per-view could make a lotta money broadcasting this execution.

Probably. But when people start advocating for stuff I see in movies set in future dystopias, I get worried.
 
Probably. But when people start advocating for stuff I see in movies set in future dystopias, I get worried.

Up next on NBC: The Running Man!
 
I think it would be best for him to live and regret being radicalized. That would send a stronger message to youngsters being targeted by ISIS for recruitment.
 
Personally, I'm quite conflicted about the death penalty. In the majority, murders are often crimes of passion where a person in a sense loses their mind emotionally and becomes someone they normally never are and they can commit awful acts in that state of mind. I'm for having those people serve a sentence in prison and potentially rehabilitated at a much later date.

However, people who commit crimes like this - premeditated and distant, choosing innocent people to suffer their cruelty - I feel no similar sense of empathy for them. Likewise, those who murder in the act of robbery or other self-serving act. Those I have little problem with receiving the death penalty.
 
I clearly stated that I was not a fan of the death penalty and to elaborate it is specifically because too many, for my liking have been executed who were innocent. I also stated that for cases such as this one where the guilt is irrefutable I am for it. What is the point of appeals in such a case?

And as I have mentioned people sentenced to the DP, have been cleared 30 years later. The evidence was irrefutable at that time as well.
The problem being what is considered irrefutable and defining such legally.
Point of appeals - as noted above.
The DP serves no purpose other than vengeance.
 
Sorry but that is your opinion and mine is different. If you intentionally kill a child then you lose that right to be considered a human. You rob him or her that chance to experience that wonder of growing up and learning about life. And then you go off to a grocery store to buy some milk for yourself.

No, he is no longer a member of the human race.

As John Prine put it best:
Sorry, but it's not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of biology. He's a human being. There's no way to get around it. Saying he's not human just makes you feel better.
 
Personally, I'm quite conflicted about the death penalty. In the majority, murders are often crimes of passion where a person in a sense loses their mind emotionally and becomes someone they normally never are and they can commit awful acts in that state of mind. I'm for having those people serve a sentence in prison and potentially rehabilitated at a much later date.

However, people who commit crimes like this - premeditated and distant, choosing innocent people to suffer their cruelty - I feel no similar sense of empathy for them. Likewise, those who murder in the act of robbery or other self-serving act. Those I have little problem with receiving the death penalty.

Not all murders are capital murders. Only capital murder can receive capital punishment. It's usually only the murders that can really piss you off that are cap murders.
 
Keeping people locked up also serves the same purpose.

Some people think the death penalty is immoral. Others do not. Isn't that sufficient evidence that it's subjective?

So the idea that murder is wrong is a "subjective notion of morality?"
 
So the idea that murder is wrong is a "subjective notion of morality?"

Murder is wrong, more or less by definition. But you'll find differing ideas on what exactly constitutes murder.
 
Saying he's not human just makes you feel better.




What the hell does that mean? No, it doesn't bring any euphoria to me. To make you feel better, how about I just call him the lowest form of scum.

I put him up there with the Nazis who pushed the Jews into the gas chambers. Zero empathy for them.

If that had been my grandson he murdered I would find a way to bring hell rain on him. Guaranteed.
 
The thing is there really is no such thing as life w/out possibility of parole. Someone may be sentenced to that but the parole board can always change it.

Also, they can escape from prison and kill again. Or kill in prison, including corrections staff. The death penalty assures they will never kill again.
 
Now, there's a punishment .....put them in a soundproof cell and pipe in Bieber's music 24/7.

In an oddly prescient effort, he was specifically listed as a war crime in the Geneva Convention.
 
Also, they can escape from prison and kill again. Or kill in prison, including corrections staff. The death penalty assures they will never kill again.

BS arguments. Nobody ever escapes from Supermax prisons and almost never are corrections staff killed. Just strawmen you wanna throw up there.
 
BS arguments. Nobody ever escapes from Supermax prisons and almost never are corrections staff killed. Just strawmen you wanna throw up there.

Ted Bundy, for one, escaped to murder again. How many murders did he commit after being executed? A: 0.
 
Ted Bundy, for one, escaped to murder again. How many murders did he commit after being executed? A: 0.


Wow...you have to go back 50 years to find one....and even then, Bundy didn't escape from a maximum security prison, he escaped from a po-dunk county jail in Colorado. Nice try, but still an epic fail.
 
I think it would be best for him to live and regret being radicalized. That would send a stronger message to youngsters being targeted by ISIS for recruitment.

I'd like for him to live a very long and healthy life in solitary confinement 23 out of 24 hours a day and surrounded by the photographs of those he killed and maimed. And my hope would be for his eventual sincere remorse.

Beyond that, I'd like to think that we as a society can do better than killing people who kill people.
 
I'd like for him to live a very long and healthy life in solitary confinement 23 out of 24 hours a day and surrounded by the photographs of those he killed and maimed. And my hope would be for his eventual sincere remorse.

Beyond that, I'd like to think that we as a society can do better than killing people who kill people.

The Death Penalty is too costly and time consuming. This wasn't some robbery that went bad this was pure evil of successfully trying to cause death and pain to as many people possible..

We kill thousands of cows, pigs and chicken everyday who never did anything to anyone so that we can barbecue them with a beer and friends and people are hesitant at the thought of this piece rotten scum being executed?

So the best choice would be life in prison and am torn between solitary or dumped in the gen population.
 
I agree. I prefer to see him sincerely remorseful and living with what he did. That is more punishment than a quick death to confused, radicalized, and unremorseful individual.

In many ways, this conversation reminds me of the Manson Family murders. I have seen many of the Manson women in interviews, and they are now horrified by what they did. But once, they were unremorseful, and looked totally insane with their shaved heads and singing songs after being sentenced to death. They were brainwashed, and instead of dying brainwashed, the state of CA banned the death penalty and they lived to regret. It is unbelievable considering how screwed up they were, but after getting away from Manson they were deprogrammed. I think we were also able to learn more about cult phenomena and brainwashing as a result of their lives being spared. I think he could be more valuable being kept alive in some ways as well.



I'd like for him to live a very long and healthy life in solitary confinement 23 out of 24 hours a day and surrounded by the photographs of those he killed and maimed. And my hope would be for his eventual sincere remorse.

Beyond that, I'd like to think that we as a society can do better than killing people who kill people.
 
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