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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    First of all, it doesn't necessarily take 20 years. In any event you are arguing that it is cheaper to pay for 50+ years of upkeep (including in old age) including all the legal procedures, hearings, etc. during that period than to do so for 20 years. Have you ever tried logical reasoning?
    the legal proceedings on a LWOP are quick-in the federal system, they can file only one collateral attack after the direct appeal is denied. have you ever actually litigated a federal criminal sentence

    I have-at least 100. look up a 2255 petition and get back to me
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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the legal proceedings on a LWOP are quick-in the federal system, they can file only one collateral attack after the direct appeal is denied. have you ever actually litigated a federal criminal sentence

    I have-at least 100. look up a 2255 petition and get back to me
    So according to you inmates who are sentenced to life in prison have no right to file any legal petitions or institute any legal proceedings of any kind? And you claim to know the criminal justice system?

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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The process to kill someone is expensive due to the excessive number of appeals, and the cost of housing someone for 20 years while they do all the mentioned appeals. If we were to execute within 1 year of conviction you'd probably find that the death penalty is far cheaper.
    Why stop there? We could go the Chinese route and execute within 1 week!
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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    They'll have one less martyr to motivate them. That counts for something.
    But they have someone to use when bargaining for the release of our people when they are about to execute them.

    It's lose-lose.
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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You don't get it. No one "rots" in prison. They are pretty well taken care of for the most part. And if ever were allowed into general population, would be treated as a hero among the Islamic converts.
    So rather, reform the prisons and then remove the death penalty?
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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the legal proceedings on a LWOP are quick-in the federal system, they can file only one collateral attack after the direct appeal is denied. have you ever actually litigated a federal criminal sentence

    I have-at least 100. look up a 2255 petition and get back to me
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/2255

    I'm going to have to read that over a good thirty times before I can comprehend it...
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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    It isn't because one doesn't count the actual costs of keeping somebody locked up for the rest of his/her life (including the cost of housing, feeding, and guarding somebody for 50+ years, the cost of their medical care, the cost of all legal proceedings and hearings they may have during that entire period, etc.)
    With our luck, the little ****er will decide he wants to be a woman and the govt will pay for his sex change operation.

    Or he'll get a kidney or a liver that should go to someone else.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Why stop there? We could go the Chinese route and execute within 1 week!
    Not sure how one extreme is any better than the other extreme.
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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    So rather, reform the prisons and then remove the death penalty?
    No make death, death. Not decades of appeals, then death.

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    Re: Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Why stop there? We could go the Chinese route and execute within 1 week!
    screw that. I say as soon as the judge determines the sentence, the bailiff carries it out within the next 30 seconds. better yet plant a bomb in the courtroom and have it set to go off at the end of the trial. if acquitted, then we can worry about disarming it.

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