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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    50% of all oil in the oceans is caused by nature.



    Renewables will never reach the portability and power conversion of oil, natural gas, and coal. Renewables will never keep up with the output of nuclear power plants.

    Renewables work in small scale and to supplement on a large scale. They can only work on a large scale if you kill off most of the human population, reduce the standard of living, or there is a God-like technological breakthrough.
    To the bolded. Not in the concentrations we saw when British Petroleum ****ed up.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    50% of all oil in the oceans is caused by nature.



    Renewables will never reach the portability and power conversion of oil, natural gas, and coal. Renewables will never keep up with the output of nuclear power plants.

    Renewables work in small scale and to supplement on a large scale. They can only work on a large scale if you kill off most of the human population, reduce the standard of living, or there is a God-like technological breakthrough.
    To the bolded. And men would never fly, walk on the moon, or communicate by cellular phones. We can't be bogged down by short sighted and backward thinking people!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not in the slightest. Getting rich is great. But you can't wait till you run out to begin working on replacement.
    This is shroud waving nonsense. Back in 1970 they said we'd run out by 1990 yet today known fossil fuel reserves are greater than ever and increasing by the year

    Viable replacements need to be in progress now.
    Well that rules out current renewables then

    And by the way, people can get rich off them too
    And they certainly do given the taxpayer subsidy they recieve is usually far greater than the value of the energy they produce

    But burning nasty, polluting dinosaur (pun intended) fuels must be stopped at some point. And it will be too, regardless of opinion now.
    But only when a more economically viable alternative is invented. That is still a long way off

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    To the bolded. And men would never fly, walk on the moon, or communicate by cellular phones. We can't be bogged down by short sighted and backward thinking people!
    What renewable isn't damaging to the environment or ecosystem and doesn't suck on power conversion rates? How are you going to improve performance and portability of each?

    Are you actually suggesting simultaneously throwing billions and billions into research of renewables while winding down existing fossil fuel use immediately? Surely you aren't that foolish.

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    What renewable isn't damaging to the environment or ecosystem and doesn't suck on power conversion rates? How are you going to improve performance and portability of each?

    Are you actually suggesting simultaneously throwing billions and billions into research of renewables while winding down existing fossil fuel use immediately? Surely you aren't that foolish.
    Renewable energy sources will quickly become more efficient as we use them more and get better at it. Green energy is still in its infancy; it's unreasonable to expect it to immediately be just as efficient as the fossil fuels we have been working with for hundreds of years.

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

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    No blog can rescue us from the damage of 35 years of Reaganomics.
    a lie repeated often enough is still a lie.

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Hmmm I disagree with you there. The US has the lowest levels of upward social mobility of any developed country. The odds are that in the US if you are born poor you will die poor whatever your level of intellect sadly. This is a state of affairs that has gotten progressively worse with the passing of decades
    did you not read the article I posted? there are plenty of other articles out there like it.
    umm on it isn't. you only remain poor because you don't take advantage of the opportunities afforded to you or go out and make your own opportunity.

    yea they have gotten worse and liberals continue their war on prosperity. it will only get worse.

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    a lie repeated often enough is still a lie.
    I delight in the irony.

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Renewable energy sources will quickly become more efficient as we use them more and get better at it.
    There have been wind turbines for over 40 years yet not one has ever produced a greater value in energy than the value of the subsidy it recieves. Given this is supposedly the most cost effective renewable to date I think its time to cut our losses

    Green energy is still in its infancy; it's unreasonable to expect it to immediately be just as efficient as the fossil fuels we have been working with for hundreds of years.
    In my view instead of squandering even more resources on this nonsense we should use them to make our fossil fuel plants much cleaner and more efficient

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Oil wins every time.

    Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn | Environment | The Guardian

    "Environmental groups and experts hit out at the US government on Tuesday following its announcement that the Anglo-Dutch oil giant Shell would be allowed to resume offshore exploration and drilling in the Arctic’s American waters. Unforgiving conditions in the Arctic’s icy waters not only make the chances of a spill likely, the complete lack of infrastructure in place to deal with a potential disaster means the consequences of the move could be calamitous, environmental activists and experts say.

    According to a study published in February by the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, the same regulatory governmental agency that yesterday issued its approval of Shell’s Chukchi Sea exploration plan, the chances of one or more oil spills occurring as a result of drilling in the Arctic over the next 77 years are 75%. In open water or broken ice, the same study says that between 44% and 62% of crude oil resulting from a spill would stay put – neither dispersing nor evaporating – after 30 days. “Yesterday’s announcement is inconsistent with the federal government’s commitment for stewardship of the Arctic Ocean, it is inconsistent with President Obama’s commitment to combat climate change, and it is a clear prioritization of Shell’s needs ahead of the protection of one of our most important natural resources,” said Michael LeVine, Oceana’s Pacific senior counsel."
    It is beyond stupid.
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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