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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Drill baby drill.
    I agree. The more plentiful the energy the cheaper the cost of living. Whats not to like ?

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I agree. The more plentiful the energy the cheaper the cost of living. Whats not to like ?
    A damaged environment. Besides the fact that oil, gas and coal deposits are finite, there is what there is, it has an exhaustive date, even if we are uncertain of what it is. Alternatives must be found.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    I think many people misinterpret what oil is, in terms of economic impact.
    Refining crude oil into finished products, is just about the last manufacturing
    still done in the US. Services are fine, but at some point the economy needs
    manufacturing, the turning of raw materials into finished products, to prime the pump.

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A damaged environment. Besides the fact that oil, gas and coal deposits are finite, there is what there is, it has an exhaustive date, even if we are uncertain of what it is. Alternatives must be found.
    Our fossil fuel reserves will last centuries and I have no particular issues with the siting of oil platforms in uninhabited Arctic wastes either. Costly inefficient renewable alternatives are currently a waste of effort and resources and will not be required for the remotely forseeable future

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I think many people misinterpret what oil is, in terms of economic impact.
    Refining crude oil into finished products, is just about the last manufacturing
    still done in the US. Services are fine, but at some point the economy needs
    manufacturing, the turning of raw materials into finished products, to prime the pump.
    Indeed. Service industries ultimately need real industries to service. Selling each other Capuccino's, hamburgers and Insurance policies will only ever get you so far without genuine wealth creation

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Our fossil fuel reserves will last centuries and I have no particular issues with the siting of oil platforms in uninhabited Arctic wastes either. Costly inefficient renewable alternatives are currently a waste of effort and resources and will not be required for the remotely forseeable future
    Lol. You cannot prove that oil reserves are going to last centuries. You have no concrete proof of their size and no way of knowing what demands will be in the world fifty years from now let alone centuries.
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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    When is the left in America going to give up the ghost on this one and admit that Obama has scammed you in another area. You all believe he's the great environmentalist President, out to save the planet and keep the oceans from rising. You've been had.

    If a Republican President had expanded energy production to the extent the Obama administration has, mined and exported dirty coal to the record levels this administration has, etc. there'd be eco-terrorist riots in the streets, that President hung in effigy, and more liberal scam artists than you could shake a stick at promising to make America a leader in fighting climate change.

    It's laughable - but hey, I'm glad to see Obama's utter hypocrisy continue to be exposed.
    A Canadian conservative is one who believes in limited government and that the government should stay out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms.

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Obama Loses Support Among White Millennials

    The erosion of President Obama’s base, in 1 chart
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...sing-his-base/

    Plenty of Obama's original base is eroding, for this his energy policies and other reasons.
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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. You cannot prove that oil reserves are going to last centuries. You have no concrete proof of their size and no way of knowing what demands will be in the world fifty years from now let alone centuries.
    Just Shale gas and oil reserves we know of today will last us at least 100 years and we are bound to find a whole lot more. Coal/Oil liquefaction processes like the ones the Nazi's used in WW2 will last at least another two centuries too so we are not just about to run out of fossil fuels any time soon. Indeed the new cheap gas fracking processes potentially promise a new economic boomtime based on cheap energy much like the 25 years after WW2

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    Re: Letting Shell drill in Arctic could lead to catastrophic oil spill, experts warn

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Just Shale gas and oil reserves we know of today will last us at least 100 years and we are bound to find a whole lot more. Coal/Oil liquefaction processes like the ones the Nazi's used in WW2 will last at least another two centuries too so we are not just about to run out of fossil fuels any time soon. Indeed the new cheap gas fracking processes potentially promise a new economic boomtime based on cheap energy much like the 25 years after WW2
    Bound to, that's nice. It's finite!!!!!!!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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