of course its security needs are guaranteed
that does not make armed resistance to an occupying power terrorismPalestinian terrorism predates the Israeli occupation of the WB, or the Jordanian one.
at least not any more than when the American colonists resisted british occupation
and i believe (hope) most of us feel positive about that action and outcome
there is no possible way to assure that no citizen of israel will ever be threatenedIt makes no sense at all to simply withdraw from the territories while terrorism still threatens the citizens of Israel.
just as there is no way to guarantee that no citizen of the US would be threatened while residing in the US
but given israel's disproportionately stronger military, only a fool would believe that israel is genuinely subjected to threat as a nation
one of my best friends and his family are currently in israel, visiting their extended family. his brother is buried there. i care for the lives of israelisYou may not show any caring for the lives of Israeli citizens who are threatened by these terrorists' attacks, but don't expect Israel to act the same as you do.
but i also care for the lives of Palestinians - to the same degree
and while i recognize that rogue actions are inflicted against the israeli citizens, my belief is that subjugating the Palestinian people, displacing them from their own lands, only perpetuates the anger that results in armed conflict
and no state is advocating massacreIt's absurd to expect a state's government to advocate the massacre of its citizens.
but one state is occupying the land of another people
why should those people on the occupied lands have reason to believe in good will from the occupiers
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well for a while after WWII the UN was doing just that.an uncivilized approach to diplomatic relations that would set our world back a few centuries
under your approach, the US should be governing japan, italy, and Germany
why do you think japans military is basically nothing more than homeland defense?
you seem to have an issue with it.that is a right of every sovereign nation
what's your point?
If the Palestinians lived like civilized people and didn't commit unprovoked attacks against Israel and let them live in peace thenwe have an israeli military occupying the land of another people for over 40 years
and you believe it is the Palestinians who are in the wrong for objecting to it
your position is without logic
there would be no need for an occupation.
as it sits down there is a need as the Palestinian government has no problem committing and approving of unprovoked attacks.
until the time that their government see Israel and recognizes Israel as a real nation and acknowledges the borders as they are
Israel has the authority to protect it's people from harm.
so my position has plenty of logic.
but occupying the lands of another for almost a half century is not the means to achieve them
... unless the intent is to displace those people and take their lands
what should cause us to conclude that is not the genuine intent?
and now that i have demonstrated that i recognize israel has its own long term needs, share with us why it needs to continue to occupy the lands of another peopleUntil you accept that your observations and "solutions" are just blather.
we have seen over the course of almost a half century that waiting for israel to relinquish its grip on the lands of another people is an unrealistic expectationI'm biased in favor of Israel myself, so I don't consider your bias to be the problem. Your problem is this pie-in-the-sky notion that you can just go in, pick a side, and force one party to act the way you want. The only way any kind of long term, viable peace is going to happen is when both parties sit down and work out their demands so they walk away feeling like they got their most important needs met.
and since it is the more powerful of the two parties, by a few quanta, something must be initiated to motivate israel to be willing to abandon the lands of the other people. which is why i recommend the application of an international embargo