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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    They did so in direct violation of their oath then. Sodomy is not protected in the US constitution, nor by it's intent.
    Between consenting adults it is legal.

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    Re: Tex. bill would bar local officials from issuing same-sex-marriage licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Most criminal laws in this country, in the end, reflect the teachings of Christianity about right and wrong. But the fact a state law that makes adultery a crime codifies one of the Ten Commandments, for example, does not mean that law is an unconstitutional intrusion of religion into government.
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    Re: Tex. bill would bar local officials from issuing same-sex-marriage licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Between consenting adults it is legal.
    And how is that an argument that makes their decision any less an abandonment of their oath?

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    Re: Tex. bill would bar local officials from issuing same-sex-marriage licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    They did so in direct violation of their oath then. Sodomy is not protected in the US constitution, nor by it's intent.
    So you think the government has business with what you do with a consenting adult in the privacy of your own bedroom?

    Before you answer you should know several state sodomy laws extended to consensual sexual acts between heterosexuals, including oral and anal sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No they don't.
    You're wrong. Those values, precepts, were all throughout British Common Law and American colonial law.

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    Re: Tex. bill would bar local officials from issuing same-sex-marriage licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So you think the government has business with what you do with a consenting adult in the privacy of your own bedroom?
    You're asking the same wrong question you always do. Is sodomy protected by the US Constitution? Yes or no. If yes, where?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Before you answer you should know several state sodomy laws extended to consensual sexual acts between heterosexuals, including oral and anal sex.
    ALL sodomy laws apply to heterosexuals too. So?

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    Re: Tex. bill would bar local officials from issuing same-sex-marriage licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're asking the same wrong question you always do. Is sodomy protected by the US Constitution? Yes or no. If yes, where?



    ALL sodomy laws apply to heterosexuals too. So?
    You are asking if sodomy is protected by the Constitution, I am asking if your personal liberty and privacy are protected by the Constitution. Exactly what state interest is served by the government dictating your private sex life that justifies its intrusion into your individual liberty?

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    Re: Tex. bill would bar local officials from issuing same-sex-marriage licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You are asking if sodomy is protected by the Constitution, I am asking if your personal liberty and privacy are protected by the Constitution. Exactly what state interest is served by the government dictating your private sex life that justifies its intrusion into your individual liberty?
    So, you can't answer the question and thought you'd distract and move away from it as fast as possible. Again, is sodomy protected by the US Constitution yes or no. If yes, where?

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    Re: Tex. bill would bar local officials from issuing same-sex-marriage licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So, you can't answer the question and thought you'd distract and move away from it as fast as possible. Again, is sodomy protected by the US Constitution yes or no. If yes, where?
    Lawrence v. Texas did not find a right to sodomy. Your question was pointless. You are arguing the state can violate individual liberty to criminalize consensual and private sexual conduct for absolutely no reason aside from moral antipathy. You are free to have that opinion, but you can never call yourself a friend of liberty. I have a Constitutionally guaranteed right to DUE PROCESS. Do you know what that is? It means a safeguard from arbitrary denial of life, liberty, or property by the Government outside the sanction of law. The state cannot deny my individual liberty just because some people find certain sexual acts between consenting adults to be yucky.

    And I did not "move" anything. You are just ignorant of the rational that SCOTUS used to justify throwing out state sodomy bans and you have created an innane "right to sodomy" straw man because you are too lazy to educate yourself about the decision. But please continue to argue for more government intrusion into our personal lives so I can quote you in future threads.
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    Re: Tex. bill would bar local officials from issuing same-sex-marriage licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nothing unconstitutional about a state banning sodomy.
    How about adultery, masturbation, or even certain position for intercourse? Are any sexual acts protected by the Constitution?
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