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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No. I'm asking what peoples "problem" with this? Whats wrong with Bill Clinton getting a ton of money from some bank to give a speech? Just trying to see if the substance of the criticism is more than just "CLINTON!!!! I DONT LIKE HER!"?
    I don't have a problem with Clinton getting a ton of money from some bank to give a speech. I'm a capitalist. I don't have a problem with anyone getting or giving a ton of money to someone else.

    The article isn't supposed to make people angry that he got money from Barclay's to make a speech. The article isn't about Barclay's. It's about the State Department quickly (although just how quickly isn't really known because we weren't given a benchmark) approving his requests to associate for money with entities that were under investigation by the US Government and/or were in a possible position to be part of a quid pro quo.
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't have a problem with Clinton getting a ton of money from some bank to give a speech. I'm a capitalist. I don't have a problem with anyone getting or giving a ton of money to someone else.

    The article isn't supposed to make people angry that he got money from Barclay's to make a speech. The article isn't about Barclay's. It's about the State Department quickly (although just how quickly isn't really known because we weren't given a benchmark) approving his requests to associate for money with entities that were under investigation by the US Government and/or were in a possible position to be part of a quid pro quo.
    Just another piece of the puzzle that leads to a pattern of questionable ethics and appearance of conflicts of interest. While outright lying about issues and their involvement with Foreigners over money. Even breaking agreements that were signed as well as not keeping records.

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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The article isn't supposed to make people angry that he got money from Barclay's to make a speech. The article isn't about Barclay's. It's about the State Department quickly (although just how quickly isn't really known because we weren't given a benchmark) approving his requests to associate for money with entities that were under investigation by the US Government and/or were in a possible position to be part of a quid pro quo.
    Whats the problem? They payed $300 Million in fines... What was the quid pro quo? I'll give a speech and you pay not only me but then the US Treasury? Sounds like a ****ty return for Barclay's in this possible quid pro quo


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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh it leads to corruption, but the thing is its essentially legal corruption.
    No it isn't. Politicians DO get sent to prison for this. See Rod Blagojevich. The problem is that the some people put party and ideological expediency above rooting out corruption.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No it isn't. Politicians DO get sent to prison for this. See Rod Blagojevich. The problem is that the some people put party and ideological expediency above rooting out corruption.
    Giving a speech to a bank then paying Bill Clinton $650,000 for that speech, and then paying a $300 Million dollar fine? Who was doing the paying and what did they get in return to play? Sounds like it was just a bunch of paying and no playing...


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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Whats the problem? They payed $300 Million in fines... What was the quid pro quo? I'll give a speech and you pay not only me but then the US Treasury? Sounds like a ****ty return for Barclay's in this possible quid pro quo
    Barclay's wasn't the only business mentioned. Did you read the entire article? It sounds like you never got past Barclay's.

    By the way, if the article offends you, you should take it up with the AP. They're the ones who are making it an issue.
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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Almost all aspiring politicians have used various positions for personal gain, be it a resume filler, or a way to work their way up the ladder of power.
    Not all of them are Hillary Clinton. She's special.

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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    But does Ann have a brother, who is a scam artist and complained he would have to take a job making only 75k a year?

    You know.....one that thought he could be his own charity.
    Hell, I might go see Mitt tomorrow for a haircut. He's good at it.

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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I wont see anything if you can't describe it, either.
    I'm holding on to the documents just now.

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    Re: State Department OK'd most Bill Clinton speech requests within days

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Not all of them are Hillary Clinton. She's special.
    Hillary might be the text book definition of 'aspiring politician'.


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